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Rookie84 08-25-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2369249)
Only one way to find out... you should be the first and tell us! :)

I wish I could :( I don't plan on going SC until some time next year as I didn't even get to install all of my parts I have collected until now :D Gotta enjoy the car with full NA mods first for a few months!

CSG Mike 08-25-2015 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by randomthoughts (Post 2369422)
Kinda takes the fun factor out of installing it yourself but it is understandable in order for them to provide such a great warranty.

Will there be warranty and tunes available for headers and various pull sizes?

Nevative. The warranty only covers the kit out-of-the-box with the supplied tune, and with the supplied pulley.

Any further modification to the kit (bolt-ons, supporting mods, pulleys, etc.,) means you're on your own without a warranty for your drivetrain. If there is a mechanical fault with the kit itself, it would still be covered under the Edelbrock warranty. Any further modification will require you to get your own custom tune.

CSG Mike 08-25-2015 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2369445)
So am I reading the following correctly?


My car has 40k miles on it, so I would be ineligible for warranty coverage from Edelbrock, correct?

I mean, I would have wanted to save the $400-$1k and installed it myself anyway, but it's worth clarifying.

Correct.

Kodename47 08-26-2015 06:46 AM

@CSG Mike

FAQ:
Will any strut tower braces fit?

Specifically for me the Cusco offering as I have one with the MCB that I would prefer to keep, I need to know whether to add it to the list of stuff to sell ;)

DarkSunrise 08-26-2015 07:51 AM

Wow the Edelbrock-provided dynosheet looks impressive. (Assuming this is apples-to-apples 91 octane CARB comparison...) More midrange torque than the C30-94 JR/KW rotrex superchargers (3500-6000 RPM), but matches them top-end (6000+ RPM).

http://www.edelbrock.com/news_releas...6-Graph-4C.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...85657793_o.jpg
@CSG Mike

What are your thoughts on Edelbrock vs. JRSC? Primarily focused on power delivery and track durability. We all know JRSC is track-proven, how about Edelbrock? Thanks!

mid_life_crisis 08-26-2015 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2369445)
So am I reading the following correctly?


My car has 40k miles on it, so I would be ineligible for warranty coverage from Edelbrock, correct?

I mean, I would have wanted to save the $400-$1k and installed it myself anyway, but it's worth clarifying.

Exactly. For most people, all that warranty means is that Edelbrock is confident that the Twin's (isn't that actually triplets?) engine can handle the amount of power their base kit develops, which is reassuring, but from a practical aspect, this warranty doesn't mean much to most buyers.
No question that a short warranty is better than no warranty, but for most drivers this is going to be really short, or nonexistent.

Alltezza 08-26-2015 12:48 PM

Will this SC have that SC whine(;

CSG Mike 08-26-2015 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2370137)
Wow the Edelbrock-provided dynosheet looks impressive. (Assuming this is apples-to-apples 91 octane CARB comparison...) More midrange torque than the C30-94 JR/KW rotrex superchargers (3500-6000 RPM), but matches them top-end (6000+ RPM).

http://www.edelbrock.com/news_releas...6-Graph-4C.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...85657793_o.jpg
@CSG Mike

What are your thoughts on Edelbrock vs. JRSC? Primarily focused on power delivery and track durability. We all know JRSC is track-proven, how about Edelbrock? Thanks!

CSG dynos are all heat-soaked dynos. I'm not sure comparing those two graphs is a fair comparison. Additionally, that particular dyno of the JRSC is without an oil cooler, whereas the Edelbrock does have the Perrin unit installed.

Further testing for the Edelbrock unit is ongoing, and I cannot comment on that until I have enough evidence to draw a conclusion. In usual CSG fashion, the testing will be rigorous, thorough, and I can assure you that I will be trying my best to make the car overheat.


*edit*

I've received word the Edelbrock dyno is also without an oil cooler.

FuzzyFunk 08-26-2015 06:49 PM

Mike, is one oil cooler better than the other? Jr vs Perrin?

BigFatFlip 08-26-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyFunk (Post 2370958)
Mike, is one oil cooler better than the other? Jr vs Perrin?

Somebody can correct me, but I believe JR has a Setrab 15 vs the Perrin, which has a 13 row I believe.

Edit: I had the sizes wrong, but either way, the JR has a slightly larger heat exchanger.

Decay107 08-26-2015 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFatFlip (Post 2370977)
Somebody can correct me, but I believe JR has a Setrab 19 vs the Perrin, which has a 15 row I believe.

15 row series 9 JR
13 row series 6 Perrin

CSG Mike 08-26-2015 09:23 PM

Jackson Racing has a MUCH larger oil cooler than Perrin.

FyeaFRS 08-26-2015 10:12 PM

Jesus the install instructions are nightware-ish. I put a deposit down for this kit and am seriously reconsidering it now. There's so many modifications you have to do just to install. They claim this to be a simple bolt-on kit, but it looks to be far from it. Really bummed about it :(

http://www.edelbrock.com/fa20/downlo...structions.pdf

SomedayIsuppose 08-26-2015 11:09 PM

Mike,

Couple questions, gonna be in Socal near the holidays and would be interested in having CSG do the install based on your thorough posts about it.

1. I know you said there isn't a break in, but is it advisable to install the kit and a few days later drive back to Oregon?

2. Do you have a ballpark for labor on install? I assume under a day for pros like you guys.

Thanks!


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