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Dimman 10-28-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 525186)
Oh my, just noticed this:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...l-atom-3-mugen

Mugen tuned K20...270hp, 188 lb-ft torque! That's a whopping 254Nm, 127Nm/L! Take that Ferrari.

Pretty sure that motor is a bored and stroked k20 and no longer 2.0L. I think it's actually 2.2L.

serialk11r 10-28-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 525278)
Pretty sure that motor is a bored and stroked k20 and no longer 2.0L. I think it's actually 2.2L.

Really? :/ Okay yea google search seems to say it's bored to 2.2L (86mm stroke + 8600rpm is pretty high piston speed). Darn. Not so cool then.

RaceR 10-28-2012 09:02 PM

Ill just leave these two videos here:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCtJVbJEHZg&feature=related"]BMW M5 with Eisenmann RACE Exhaust INSANE Acceleration!!!! - YouTube[/ame]

Skip to 0.40 sec..

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-UVV9aiUKU"]BMW M3 CSL EXHAUST - YouTube[/ame]

:wub:

Wes B. 11-14-2012 02:39 PM

Mugen MF408S -- 4.0l naturally aspirated V8 putting out 590 hp at 9,500 rpm and 383 ft/lbs of torque at 7,500 rpm. Oh, and the entire engine only weighs 289 lbs.

http://www.allcarcentral.com/Honda/H...edia-photo.jpg

White Shadow 11-14-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by einzlr (Post 497867)


One from the past is BMW's S54: 3.2l tuned to make 315hp in the Z3 M Roadster/Coupe MY 2001-2 and 340hp in the E46 M3.


Are there others?

From the past? Lots of them. 100 HP per liter isn't really a big deal anymore because it's been done so much already. I mean, 12 years ago Honda had 120 HP per liter in the S2000.

Hanakuso 11-14-2012 02:56 PM

Sad Honda isn't really a top contender anymore. I'm guessing they are the most capable but..

einzlr 11-14-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by White Shadow (Post 556976)
From the past? Lots of them. 100 HP per liter isn't really a big deal anymore because it's been done so much already. I mean, 12 years ago Honda had 120 HP per liter in the S2000.

I'm amazed no one else mentioned that. What are others that haven't been mentioned yet in this thread? I'm always interested in filling gaps in my knowledge base :)

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 556988)
Sad Honda isn't really a top contender anymore. I'm guessing they are the most capable but..

Yep :( Although I've heard rumors of a follow-on to the S2k, so maybe there's hope yet :thumbsup:

Orthow 11-14-2012 03:41 PM

Cool thread - didn't realize just how many manufacturers have eclipsed the 100hp/L mark.

To add to this I have never swapped a Honda engine that didn't make over 100hp/L:

H22A (prelude engine)

K20A (Type R Version) ; K20A2 (Rsx engine)

B16A2 (late model civic engine or JDM) ; B16B (Type R version)

B18C (JDM ITR engine) ; B18C5 (USDM ITR engine)

Also - my current K24 (07' TSX) makes over 250+/2.4L with a completely bone stock engine and simple bolt-ons/tune.

Honda may not have anything worth mentioning currently in this thread but I don't think it will stay that way for too much longer. Having said that - this is one of the major motivators behind my move to Toyota/Subaru - boring ass Honda dropping the ball.

einzlr 11-14-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Orthow (Post 557102)
Cool thread - didn't realize just how many manufacturers have eclipsed the 100hp/L mark.

To add to this I have never swapped a Honda engine that didn't make over 100hp/L:

H22A (prelude engine)

K20A (Type R Version) ; K20A2 (Rsx engine)

B16A2 (late model civic engine or JDM) ; B16B (Type R version)

B18C (JDM ITR engine) ; B18C5 (USDM ITR engine)

Also - my current K24 (07' TSX) makes over 250+/2.4L with a completely bone stock engine and simple bolt-ons/tune.

These are all NA?

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Originally Posted by Orthow (Post 557102)
Honda may not have anything worth mentioning currently in this thread but I don't think it will stay that way for too much longer. Having said that - this is one of the major motivators behind my move to Toyota/Subaru - boring ass Honda dropping the ball.

Hehe I have the same hope. Kinda hoping now that Toyobaru has shown the way that others will feel compelled to follow :burnrubber:

Wes B. 11-14-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Orthow (Post 557102)
Cool thread - didn't realize just how many manufacturers have eclipsed the 100hp/L mark.

To add to this I have never swapped a Honda engine that didn't make over 100hp/L:

H22A (prelude engine)

K20A (Type R Version) ; K20A2 (Rsx engine)

B16A2 (late model civic engine or JDM) ; B16B (Type R version)

B18C (JDM ITR engine) ; B18C5 (USDM ITR engine)

Also - my current K24 (07' TSX) makes over 250+/2.4L with a completely bone stock engine and simple bolt-ons/tune.

Honda may not have anything worth mentioning currently in this thread but I don't think it will stay that way for too much longer. Having said that - this is one of the major motivators behind my move to Toyota/Subaru - boring ass Honda dropping the ball.

I hate to be a Debbie-Downer, but I think you might have misrepresented the H22A and K24.

The H22A never had 100hp/l. 220hp was needed, and the closest Honda ever came was 217hp in the JDM 5th Generation Prelude and 6th Generation Accord.

The K24 never had 100hp/l. 240hp was needed, and the closest Honda ever came was 201hp in the 2009+ Acura TSX and Honda Accord and the 2012 Honda Civic Si.

Dark 11-15-2012 01:43 AM

Add to the list

Mercedes Benz SLS AMG Black Series. 631hp from NA 6.3L V10.

wlfpck 11-15-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orthow (Post 557102)
Cool thread - didn't realize just how many manufacturers have eclipsed the 100hp/L mark.

To add to this I have never swapped a Honda engine that didn't make over 100hp/L:

H22A (prelude engine)

K20A (Type R Version) ; K20A2 (Rsx engine)

B16A2 (late model civic engine or JDM) ; B16B (Type R version)

B18C (JDM ITR engine) ; B18C5 (USDM ITR engine)

Also - my current K24 (07' TSX) makes over 250+/2.4L with a completely bone stock engine and simple bolt-ons/tune.

Honda may not have anything worth mentioning currently in this thread but I don't think it will stay that way for too much longer. Having said that - this is one of the major motivators behind my move to Toyota/Subaru - boring ass Honda dropping the ball.

Only the H22A from the type S prelude made 100/L. The regular one was 200 hp at 2.2 Litre.

F20C, F22C from S2000.

K20 from RS Type S

B series like you have.

2ZZ-GE from toyota (Celica gts and others)

If I'm not mistaken quite a few BMW, Audi, Porsche make that N/A.


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