No Brembos = suck

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by ~el~jefe~

Uh. Well. brembo's are lighter but bigger.

They are definitely heavier than the standard brakes.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by ~el~jefe~

Uh. Well. brembo's are lighter but bigger. So that's a real thing. .

I don't have numbers in front of me, but my understanding was the PP brembos are heavier vs. standard non-PP brakes. For sure the rotors are. I swapped out my 23 lb. stock PP front rotors for 17 lb. Girodisc 2-piece. That was a lotta $$ per pound saved...

[~el~jefe~]

at the time i bought them, people on here said you save weight and gain better braking. i guess that information shifted. Is there any lighter + 4 piston very good heat dissipating systems that arent too expensive? 4 piston front 2 back.

[timurrrr]

One of the biggest benefits of a BBK is the added weight of the rotor, and thus thermal capacity.
Once the rotor has enough thermal capacity, the more expensive kits do weight savings by using lighter hats.

Same with calipers/pads. I don't know about base FT86 pads,
but on ND Miatas the Brembos have significantly bigger pads than
base brakes. Or "Little Big Brake Kit", God forbid.

Admittedly, you need to be driving pretty hard (e.g. at the track) for all that to make a difference.

The biggest benefit of the PP on '17-'20 BRZ was the amazing value-for-money on those Brembos.
And better dampers were included?!

Sure, you can get a better aftermarket BBK, but it will probably set you back double or event triple
the amount you'd pay for the PP option. One of the components here is that if you're buying base
brakes you still have to pay for them, even if you're not going to use them. And there's not much
demand on the second-hand market to buy those base brakes from you.

And for sure Brembos look way better

[Code Monkey]

If anything, PP Brembos make changing brake pads a breeze. No more unbolting calipers and fucking around with a spreader tool.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Brembo doesn't do anything to daily or mountain drive performance. Pads & tires do more performance.

I was going to say this, but figured it may not be worth the effort. Good thing you've got patience enough for the two of us.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

If anything, PP Brembos make changing brake pads a breeze. No more unbolting calipers and fucking around with a spreader tool.

That was my #1 reason. *Hate* swapping pads on sliding calipers and having to use that little cube-tool to screw the rear piston back in...

[timurrrr]

You guys change pads?

[Stonehorsw]

Originally Posted by ZDan

That was my #1 reason. *Hate* swapping pads on sliding calipers and having to use that little cube-tool to screw the rear piston back in...

No need to use the cube in a DIH (Drum in hat) setup. Brz does not have a IPB (integrated parking brake) version

[zc06_kisstherain]

lol 200hp with Brembo unnecessary

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

lol 200hp with Brembo unnecessary

What relation does 200 hp have to Brembos?

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

What relation does 200 hp have to Brembos?

At the track, a lot... How much energy you have to dissipate in the braking zone is directly related to how fast you're going, which is directly related to how much power you have. More power = faster = more energy for the brakes to take and reject as heat.

I got a chuckle out of it when they added the big Brembos as an option. After years and years of "could use more power", they give it massive brakes sized for 300+ hp, and +5hp...

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

lol 200hp with Brembo unnecessary

I've certainly cooked even Brembos at the track with stock power, even with dedicated track pads.
If you've never driven the car hard enough it doesn't mean the brakes are sufficient :P

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

You guys change pads?

I'm just mad I can't see my pads! Every car I've ever had, you can see them!!