Manual, RWD, 4 seat convertible to replace a Twin?

[HKz]

"Most recent*" is more appropriate then, either way just shows after 2000, 2+2 MT RWD choices are all american/euro. Now remove backseats from the equation and the list opens up a ton, but I too prefer to have them.

[alex87f]

How about an F23 M240i convertible?

The twins are indeed in a class of their own. I've been looking for a 4-door equivalent to them but so far nothing gets close.

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by alex87f

How about an F23 M240i convertible?

Numb steering is a big turn off, and all reviews seem to agree that the Fxx BMWs are among the worst. I haven't test driven one to confirm, but after my test drive of a Mustang (that again all reviews agree is numb) I don't even care to try.

[autoracer86]

Originally Posted by alex87f

How about an F23 M240i convertible?

The twins are indeed in a class of their own. I've been looking for a 4-door equivalent to them but so far nothing gets close.

Rx8

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by autoracer86

Rx8

Any convertible RX8s I am not aware of? Or are you talking about a Twin equivalent?

[autoracer86]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

Any convertible RX8s I am not aware of? Or are you talking about a Twin equivalent?

Yeah a 4 door twin equivalent

[jflogerzi]

CT-4 blackwing used not sure on prices but they are great track cars

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Getting back to the topic of convertibles, I think I'll be going with an automatic (due to various reasons, chief of them being able to keep the BRZ). This also expands the possibilities quite a bit.
Over the weekend I tested (all with hydraulic steering):

• 2012 Audi S5 - steering is extremely light at parking speeds, weighs up when going, but lacks feel. Overall car feels very numb. Engine and transmission (supercharged V6 and DCT) are quite nice, barking on high RPM upshifts. Seemed to be tuned for some sportiness in that department. Steering and chassis fall flat, though.
• 2008 Inifiniti G37 - steering is a little better than the Audi, but still pretty numb. Engine and transmission (VQ37 and slushbox) are super lazy, even in higher RPMs.
• 2008 BMW 335i - a winner - great steering, great engine (N54) and decent transmission (ZF 6 speed). Everything felt nice and sporty. Obviously much more isolated than the BRZ, but much better than all the other options I tried (even better feeling than the Camaro).

Next is testing a 2011 335is (with the DCT that is shared with the 2010+ 135i) to confirm the facelifted (LCI) BMWs and DCT, and if that works start seriously looking at a 2012/2013 135i to buy.

So to answer my original question - there're no manual, RWD, 4 seat convertible that can replace a Twin excepts E chassis BMWs (E88 1 series and E93 3 series). Finding them in manual is hard, and they are fairly old (last model year for both is 2013 in North America). A Camaro is a distant second if you can live with the super tall gears.

[bcj]

Saab 93 ?

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by bcj

Saab 93 ?

FWD? No thanks.
Although I think I would be happier in a FWD with good steering feel over a RWD with numb steering. The more cars I test drive in this search the more I realize how important steering feel is for me and how lucky I was driving cars with good steering most of my life.