FT-86 II Concept Photos from Geneva!! Motherload of photos.

[r4m3n]

Over at Jalopnik, someone posted this gif animation and looks fairly close to the original concept in size. The hood is longer and taller for sure, but the rear half seems fairly close to the original, which is a good thing.

btw... i've been lurking on this forum for awhile but can't remember my old login so created a new account :P

[Aki]

Bummed that the front overhang is a fair bit longer. That's what made the profile look so compact.

[AIRMAX]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

noooooo noo no... trust me... nobody here wants that.



100kg more than what?

100kg more than the "target" of 1000-1100kg.

So 1200kg at worst... lol

Thats S15 territory, so not bad still.




On another note... they should of opted for white paint, to show off more of the body shape changes. Black is a bit difficult to show the body lines especially with the lighting they use at car shows.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by r4m3n

Over at Jalopnik, someone posted this gif animation and looks fairly close to the original concept in size. The hood is longer and taller for sure, but the rear half seems fairly close to the original, which is a good thing.

btw... i've been lurking on this forum for awhile but can't remember my old login so created a new account :P

so it's maybe few mm shorter than S2k now?

Originally Posted by AIRMAX

On another note... they should of opted for white paint, to show off more of the body shape changes. Black is a bit difficult to show the body lines especially with the lighting they use at car shows.

That's why we have our fearless leader Hachiroku! Didn't you see how many pics he have taken? You should of seen first time he went tot GIAS. I'm pretty sure he'll take tons of pics this yr too!

Thank you Hachiroku for today's teaser & I'll be hitting F5 tomorrow morning like mad!

[Aki]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

so it's maybe few mm shorter than S2k now?

S2k is an inch shorter than the first concept, so this is going to be longer.
It's about 169-170in in length now (using photoshop it's roughly 3.5% longer than the concept). That'd make it longer than the 370Z, but shorter than a Scion TC.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Aki

S2k is an inch shorter than the first concept, so this is going to be longer.
It's about 169-170in in length now (using photoshop it's roughly 3.5% longer than the concept). That'd make it longer than the 370Z, but shorter than a Scion TC.

Well, only time can tell... and tomorrow we'll figure out the specs

p.s.
You can always delete the one of the double post

[RRnold]

Hachi, were you the one who lifted up the front cover? I can't for the next couple days! This is like Christmas all over again!

[Dark]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Hachi, were you the one who lifted up the front cover? I can't for the next couple days! This is like Christmas all over again!

Hachi, When you see some teases that make you jizz in your pants, you have to reveal to see what it really is. Whether you have to jizz more or not.

[Rickster]

Hey guys, this is my first post. Been a lurker for quite a while though!

So I've been working in the car industry for a couple years now, unfortunately for one of Toyota's competitors, but a thought I'd share a few of my opinions with you all who care to read. Now again, I'm stating these are my OPINIONS, so I'm not starting any rumors!!

1) To figure out the price of the vehicle, let's first figure out who the competitors for this vehicle are. Toyota used to have a Celica, and MR2, and a Supra as we all know. All 3 in different segments and different competitors. I believe the FT-86 is going to be a 370z competitor, a Hyundai Genesis Coupe, and RX-8. The price range for these vehicles are $22k - $29k. I can see the base FT-86 starting at around 23-24k, this would be the version which comes with 17" wheels, maybe a standard CD player, regular sound system, and most importantly, a different motor, maybe 225-245hp. Now I see the top of the line (the version we will see in Geneva and the NY Auto Show) being the $29k starting price version. The rumor was the car will be priced under 30k, this is right, but it's common in the automotive industry to have a low starting price but it can quickly go up depending on trim/options. Look at the 370z, it's a sub-30k vehicle, but if you get the top of the line trim, you're looking at 40k. So bottom line, I believe this vehicle will start around 23k for the base - but if you're looking for the top of the line, 300hp version, and a few amenities, expect to spend about $32-34k.

2) The carbon fiber. It's beautiful. BUT, don't expect it to be on the production version IMO. I believe the car will not have any exterior carbon fiber, it's simply not cost effective enough for a vehicle around 30k. I believe these carbon fiber accessories will however be offered if you want to customize your vehicle. Scion is a highly customizable brand, these items could be on the vehicle to test/gauge opinions of the public in order to determine if they would be suitable for an accessories line. Think of it as the F-Sport for the Lexus IS series.

3) Size/Weight. To most of us, this is the 1st/2nd most important aspect, with emphasis on the weight. Originally it was said it would be around the size of an S2000 (162.7 inches). I believe since then, the vehicle has increased in length by 2-3 inches based on pictures seen. I'd expect the size to be closer to the 370z (167.2 inches). My guess, expect the car to be around 165.5 inches long. As far as weight is concerned now, for comparison sake, the 370z is 3,232lbs but 332hp. That's about 9.73lbs per horsepower. While I'm not solely basing my weight estimate on this math, I think if the 370z is a direct competitor, the weight for this vehicle, if 300hp, would be around 2950lbs. Essentially, just shy of 3000lb.

Again, these are just opinions.. Thoughts?

[Matador]

Originally Posted by AIRMAX

100kg more than the "target" of 1000-1100kg.

So 1200kg at worst... lol

:l aughabove:

[dalli]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

:l aughabove:

gt5


anyways, I hope the carbon fiber and the spoiler is just to make it sporty, I hope its a near production concept.


*hopes up*

[Dimman]

They cheaped out on the CF, it's plain weave, not 2x2 twill. Boo... (Same as M6 roof)

[AIRMAX]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

:l aughabove:

whats so funny?

as dalli stated..

Its what is shown on GT5, which is the most recent information released.


Do you have a more accurate figure by chance?

No?... that much I guessed.

[VenomRush]

Originally Posted by AIRMAX

whats so funny?

as dalli stated..

Its what is shown on GT5, which is the most recent information released.


Do you have a more accurate figure by chance?

No?... that much I guessed.

just..... stop