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08-13-2012, 07:59 PM | #71 |
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The FRS/BRZ handles so good there's nothing to worry about in general. Just don't go too fast too soon. Get to know the car first then start to push it to it's limits.
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Just drive like a normal person on the roads, and drive like a racecar driver on the track... PROBLEM SOLVED!!!
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snap oversteer comes from lifting off the accelerator and the weight transfers to the front of the car, causing the rear to lose traction hell yeah! I remember two winters ago when I was driving my Civic (first FWD car I ever owned) and I hit a small patch of ice. I tried to turn and the car just went straight!
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So.... Let's say there's a C shape highway merge, would it be generally okay to accelerate hard from first to second while taking the turn not initiating breaks or anything, would this still cause snap oversteer due to the slight delay in gear change from first to second? Or would it cause power oversteer?Just curious for funs sake and safety sake.
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"Don't" only use the internet to learn to drive your car.
There are good resources on the internet. Just make sure to apply the skills you've read about to your car in a safe place to see how they work in a real world setting! |
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...or a 450+HP Mustang with a Detroit Locker and ET Street tires home from the drag strip in the rain....talk about "Jesus take the wheel!".... (:
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This. When I learned stick, the youtube videos made the learning curve so much easier.
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For the new folks this is required viewing regardless of driving intent. If you watch only one performance driving video in your lifetime, this should be it.
Liftoff and power oversteer are demonstrated at 17:49 [ame]http://youtu.be/xQRmYMlmdqM[/ame]
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A few general driving things that especially apply to RWD... if the car slides. LOOK WHERE YOU WANT TO GO! It's in caps for a reason, it is the singly most important thing you will do in a slide or out-of-control situation. Put another way: Do NOT look where you think you will end up, because you will. So do NOT stare at that big tree you could hit as you will hit it. Ever heard of "Magnetic Kerb/Curb"? Exactly this phenomenon. You notice you are close to a kerb, it attracts you attention, you focus on it and seemingly, no matter how hard you try you keep getting closer to it. The trick is to look away, look down the road where you want to be. Studies have shown, time and time again, that while "we" think it is the conscious part of our brain - the part that thinks (I think therefore I am) - that controls the car, walks, runs, flies a hand glider, it is NOT. The part of the brain that does the actual driving is a much older and simplier part of the brain. The same part as motor-memory et al. Where it drives/walks/runs is almost entirely controlled by where you look. It does not understand English, or American for that matter, it only understands what it has learnt to do and where you are looking at. Also it doesn't understand "DON'T" it has no concept of negative stimulus. So even though you are screaming "Not the tree! Not the tree! Please god not the tree", if you are looking at the tree the part of your brain driving the car WILL drive you into the tree. As a paraglider pilot I have stood and watched people fly straight into the only tree in a square mile landing field. The instructor repeating on the radio, "Do not look at the tree. Do not look at the tree. Do not look at the tree."... they look at the tree, fixate on it as a threat and fly straight into it.
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The FRS has an anti-liftoff oversteer mechanism BTW. Most modern cars have it, including FWD (where lift off oversteer is worse).
It nicely doubles as an up shift helper to. How do you tell it's there? Rev the engine up to 3k and lift your foot off the acclerator quickly. You should note that the revs hover for a second or so before falling. This is pre-programmed into the electronic throttle to help prevent lift off oversteer and to make upshifts easier (the revs don't drop as fast, so if you shift at an average speed the revs are already matched for the next gear). The first car I bought didn't have this. If you drive an old manual car like that, made before electronic throttles, you will notice gear shifts are a lot harder to get smooth and the throttle/clutch timing is much more delicate. Basically if you lift the throttle even a few milliseconds before you slip the clutch you get a lurch forward of engine braking. Then as you select the next gear and lift the clutch before appling throttle you get another lurch forward as the revs have fallen way too low. Modern car, no issue, the throttle release delay covers this off nicely and also helps prevent lift oversteer.
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