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Veloist 04-30-2015 07:18 PM

When I first heard the engine in person back in 2012, I loved it.

Probably because I was driving a Corolla & Prius back then.

AsianStyle 04-30-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2233077)
Yeah the description of the heavy clutch thing was really odd. Also the bolded part below threw me a bit:



I actually think these cars sound like industrial blenders stock. One of the worst parts of the car for me. It wasn't until I got a UEL header that I thought it sounded good.

Those 2 things are exactly what I disagreed with in his review, but everything else was spot on.

The sound thing really makes revving the engine out less enjoyable.

LucidMomentum 04-30-2015 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2233077)
I actually think these cars sound like industrial blenders stock. One of the worst parts of the car for me. It wasn't until I got a UEL header that I thought it sounded good.

The TRD exhaust never ceases to surprise me. I will never grow tired of it.

Tcoat 04-30-2015 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LucidMomentum (Post 2233307)
The TRD exhaust never ceases to surprise me. I will never grow tired of it.

Meet last weekend with a shitload of really well done cars and I had a bunch of people ask to hear the TRD exhaust on my humble little near stock car. They all said they liked it.

thill 04-30-2015 09:11 PM

This is one of the better car reviews I have read in awhile.. Seems honest..

Wise 04-30-2015 09:27 PM

That comment section is quite the good circle jerk.

Come together BRZ/FRS/86 owners :party0030:

rice_classic 04-30-2015 09:55 PM

He's right about the enthusiasts. They are a thankless bunch.


edit: I'm an example. If were to sit down and pencil out my ideal sports car it would be right along the lines of the ND Miata, yet the Miata exists and I still don't want it. This is another example of why focus groups don't always work. What people say they want and what they actually want are often not the same.

2nd edit: I would enjoy owning the ND Miata, I just don't want it enough to pay that much for it. All previous generations of Miata still do not want.

Tcoat 04-30-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 2233398)
He's right about the enthusiasts. They are a thankless bunch.


edit: I'm an example. If were to sit down and pencil out my ideal sports car it would be right along the lines of the ND Miata, yet the Miata exists and I still don't want it. This is another example of why focus groups don't always work. What people say they want and what they actually want are often not the same.

2nd edit: I would enjoy owning the ND Miata, I just don't want it enough to pay that much for it. All previous generations of Miata still do not want.

Actually sort of got the root of issue in the second edit. Enthusiasts will tell you exactly what they want but when it shows up they say "Why so much money. They are just ripping us off"

tennisfreak 04-30-2015 10:33 PM

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This is the mental image I had of the author:
The tone of the blog was just slightly pissed off and in your face.

rice_classic 04-30-2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2233407)
Actually sort of got the root of issue in the second edit. Enthusiasts will tell you exactly what they want but when it shows up they say "Why so much money. They are just ripping us off"

The real answer is that they never had the money in the first place.

The ND is something I want but at the same time it's Rosalyn and what I really want is a Juliet. I don't just want a good car, I want it to stir my soul. Something I want even though I shouldn't, something that causes way more trouble than it's worth and costs way more money than it could ever justify.

On paper, in interviews.. we all ask for Rosalyns but when it shows up on the showroom floor we're disappointed it's not a Juliet.

I think the FRS is somewhere in between the two and for me that's really what I wanted and didn't know until it existed.

krayzie 05-01-2015 01:10 AM

Sometimes I don't understand why people are complaining about the sound. At least it doesn't sound like a friggin' lawn mower i.e. new BMW M3.

I have an STI Performance exhaust on mine and it sounds amazing from startup to redline to the rev-matched downshifts.

Sometimes reading about the twins on North American blog sites reminds me why I rather read Japanese blog sites with Google translate instead. Most people just don't get it here.

Ultramaroon 05-01-2015 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2233130)
Edit: And I'm not a huge fan of the sound either although UEL isn't for me as I'm less a fan of the STI burble than this thing stock.

Amen. UEL header just sounds like a fouled plug. Pass.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 05-01-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 2233587)
Sometimes I don't understand why people are complaining about the sound. At least it doesn't sound like a friggin' lawn mower i.e. new BMW M3.

I have an STI Performance exhaust on mine and it sounds amazing from startup to redline to the rev-matched downshifts.

Sometimes reading about the twins on North American blog sites reminds me why I rather read Japanese blog sites with Google translate instead. Most people just don't get it here.

New M3 sounds like a touring car with a nice exhaust :D

I had the pleasure of having one running while I was marshalling at auto x last weekend, it sounded so good.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 05-01-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2233614)
Amen. UEL header just sounds like a fouled plug. Pass.

I think it can sound quite well if you get other portions of the exhaust correct as well. But some just sound like a crazy missfire.


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