I think I speak truth when I say Gan-San > All the newer drivers. :)

No, no, no. Gan-san have 100x more balls than any Japanese pro driver.

That's why football and basketball require only one ball. :bellyroll::bellyroll: because racing takes all the balls.

Anyone with photoshop skills want to try using the clear shell and coloring in the clear panels with paint to see what it would look like.

I personally wouldn't mind something like this either from Subaru:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/akgc8/RAWD.jpg

RR layout?

R4, by the looks of it ;)

You nailed it.

isn't that what Lamborghini does? Or do they do M4, I can't thinkof any other companies that have done that. Its enticing

Porsche my friend, Porsche.
http://image.europeancarweb.com/f/93...train_View.jpg

I highly doubt Subaru would do a R4, but I thought the rendering/photoshop was an interesting idea.

current status, true... but Subie is making their first FR car, so it's possible to see that layout down in the future (when we're too old to drive :bellyroll:)

I'll take FMR over R4 anyday.

Sure I would take FMR over R4, but I would probably take RMR over FMR. But for a AWD car I would probably prefer R4 over F4.

Why would you prefer an R4 over and F4?

Just personal preference.

Are you meaning the R4 is Rear engine, 4WD?

If so Subaru does in fact make one.

Most people dont know due to the fact they havnt sold any new here in my country for years or only tend to be sold in Japan.
They have been making them for a very long time.
The 4WD Samba light vans/utes and the Old Domingo vans, are 4wd rear engined.
The domingo was a 3 cylinder inline based on the Justy engine. The samba I dont know if i 3 or 4 cylinder inline.

Both also come in Rear engined RWD aswell.

We were talking about cars, specifically sports cars, and not vans.

If it looks like that rendering from the Road and Track link I am getting it, end of story. Even if i have to sell the kids for scientific experiments to afford it, well lets face it they wont fit in the back even if they are both under 6 years old :)

+1... And an FMR over an RMR too. More practical, feels better IMO.

I want an RF so I can drift in reverse

RF? Rear Engine Front wheel Drive?

....think about this...

whoa don't hurt yourself thinking..

take it easy...one step at a time..

got it?

ok...

...FRONT WHEEL DRIVE....

DERP!

Hahaha. Sounds like you are the one not thinking wise ass, he said in reverse

Precisely! the world of reverse drifting is a virtually untapped area of the motorsport industry. It's only a matter of time...


I kid I kid...but when I had an MR2 I'd swear at least once every couple months someone asked me if it was front wheel drive. There were probably 5 mid engine front wheel drive cars ever (and they were almost all FMF). I never understood why anyone would even guess that it'd be front wheel drive.

seriously?...just.....seriously....are you trolling me...is this real life?

oh say you have a FF....you go in reverse...can you drift?...
oh say you have a RF...you go in reverse ...can you drift?..

fact of the matter...your DRIVE WHEELS are still the same as your STEERING INPUT...regardless where the engine is located... FF=RF

just popping it into reverse wont suddenly make your car a drift car..its not drifting...its called dog tracking...which is no different than a vehicle with rear steering, but with the added retardedness of static wheels up front (AKA REAR WHEELS LEADING)

Driving sideways is different from sliding sideways..

aka NOT DRIFTING..my retarded 2 second diagram

Ya'll crack me up.

Theoretically with enough power a rear steering vehicle could 'drift', spinning their wheels as they dog track, but the only things that are rear-steering are what, forklifts and a few other miscellaneous things? So noone's really ever tried. I'd expect it to b every hard to control. I can't really think about it without my breakign out into laughter about the concept of an RF setup anyway. Perhaps FMF, like a saab sonnet (i think)? but yeah lets stick to good ol' FR/FMR with the FT.

The above is clear evidence that we need new photos, videos, stats, or something to talk about.. :popcorn:

If you have FWD, just do FWD drift LOL
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Dear God, yes. Hey, Brenda Priddy! Let's get on that!

AKA "Power Slide" right?

e-brake drift ;)

...or as someone said here before, "draggin ass"! :bellyroll:


Personally, I'd rather dump a F20 in an EG! ;) :respekt:

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0065_large.jpg

Oh yeah, wasn't there a vid on this car?

Yeah, if Honda went the RWD, it would silence a lot of critics.

Civic coupe with a F20
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RWD Del Sol
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EG with an F20
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Yeah seriously. They really would shut tons of critics.

I do like FR EK9.

Here is the Del Sol conversion! FF converted to a MR but a lot of fabrication!

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1266033

I'm gonna call Cartek Tuning 954-474-5366 shop on that vid tomorrow to see what all is involved in the process!

^^ this is sick!

Thank you for sharing!

thats the one thing I do like about the honda crowd

there are some weirdo with lots of time and skill that want something thats completely one off

tell me about it... look at this Civic WRX

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2763036

Yeah, I saw that civix (mix of civic & wrx) on Jalopnik. I gotta give thumbs up for his unique project.