Motec M1 Plug N Play
 

After months of waiting, we are very excited to have been given the opportunity to test m150 ecu for the FRS/BRZ.

We know this setup won't be necessary for most applications but for those who are looking to take it to the next level. You can't get any better than this.

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MoTeC's M150 Toyota FT86 / Subaru BRZ plug-in kit is a fully programmable direct replacement for the factory-fitted
ECU.
No rewiring is necessary, the kit plugs into the stock wiring harness using the original sensors and fuel system. All
original functions are maintained.

Key advantages to the new M1 solutions are:

• Fully integrates with all original systems, including Direct Injection, Stability, Dash, Power Steering, ABS,
Airconditioning, and Alternator control.
• Pre-configured sensor calibrations for Original Equipment (OE) sensors and engine triggers.
• Pre-configured control of Port and Direct Injectors with a tuneable balance table.
• Pre-configured FT86 Reference Mode for Engine Speed, Ignition Timing, and control of 4 camshafts with tuneable
Inlet and Exhaust cam timing tables.
• Pre-configured On-board Knock for each cylinder with 2 OE knock sensors and selectable centre frequency
• Pre-configured physical settings for Engine Displacement, Fuel Density, Stoichiometric Ratio, Fuel Pressure, and
Injector Linearisation allow for simplified engine start-up prior to tuning
• Pre-configured CAN messaging for OE systems including ABS / Stability, Dashboard, and Power Steering.
• Pre-configured control of OE coolant fans with 3 temperature thresholds
• Pre-configured transient fuelling compensation using physical modelling of Fuel Film Deposit for Port and Direct
injectors.
• Pre-configured Wheel Speed detection via CAN from OE ABS system, allowing Gear Detection via engine speed /
wheel speed estimate
• Configurable Boost control for a single turbo
• Configurable Anti-Lag for single turbo variants with Ignition Timing Limit, Fuel Volume Trim, Ignition Cut, Engine
Speed Limit, Boost Aim and Throttle Aim tables
• Gearbox position detection via sensor or engine speed / wheel speed estimate
• Gearbox shift request via Up Shift Switch / Down Shift Switch or Gear Lever Force sensor
• Gearbox Shift Control with Ignition Cut and Engine Speed matching
• GPS acquisition and logging via CAN or RS232 (hardware dependant)
• Intercooler Temperature and Spray control
• Lap Distance, Time and Number via BR2 or Switched Input, with Split and Sector options
• Configurable Launch Control with tables for Launch Engine Speed vs. Vehicle Speed, Launch Throttle Limit vs.
Vehicle Speed, Launch Boost Aim vs. Vehicle Speed, and Launch Fuel Volume Trim vs. Vehicle Speed.
• Race Time system with tables for Ignition Timing Compensation, Fuel Mixture Aim, Boost Limit, and Throttle
Limit.
• Auxiliary Timer system with tables for Ignition Timing Compensation, Fuel Volume Trim, and Fuel Mixture Aim
• Engine Load Average channel with tables for Engine Speed Limit, Ignition Timing Trim, Fuel Mixture Aim, Boost
Limit, and Throttle Limit
• Engine Run Time Total for engine hour logging
• Configurable Security for multiple users with differing access options
• ECU CAN Receive from a defined ID Base Address for data reception from MoTeC devices
• 4 Configurable Driver Switches and 4 Driver Rotary Switches with each of 9 positions simultaneously mappable to
Launch Control, Pit Switch, Anti-Lag, Traction, Auxiliary Time, Race Time Reset, Gear Automatic, Engine Speed
Limit Maximum, Throttle Pedal Translation, Fuel Volume Trim, Ignition Timing, Fuel Mixture Aim, Boost Limit,
Traction Aim, and Traction Control Range.
• Analogue Tachometer output with configurable Output Pin and scaling
• Transmission Pump output with Transmission Temperature threshold and hysteresis control.
• Traction Control with tables for Aim Main, Aim Compensation, Control Range.
• 4 Optional Outputs for PWM Control of added actuators:
• Duty Cycle tables using Engine Speed and Throttle or Manifold Pressure Axes
• Activation based on Inlet Manifold Pressure or Throttle Position
• Aux Output 1 includes tables for Ignition Timing Compensation, Fuel Volume Trim, and Fuel Mixture Aim
• Optional channels for additional sensors via input pin and/or CAN message, including:

That's a great standalone :thumbsup::thumbsup:

agreed, but too much money for me. There is another shop I believe that will either be using this or the haltech unit. I'll let them chime in when they finish their project.

Fixed that for you

This is for sure going on my build when i get a built block.
God i always wanted a Motec on what ever car i had

We will post results as soon as we can.

I knew I should've left my car there last time lol.

Oh god..please..no. *slowly opens wallet*

And realizes it's empty after the last round of "feeding the obsession". Can't wait to see this installed!

Ballin

It's always empty. Wallet is symbolism for that Armageddon chip in my arm. :D

That's awesome

i know i don't need this, but i want it. added to my wish list :).

Anyone want an aem series 2 ems with plug and play harness?!? :P

if you want to give it to me for free :thumbup:

NICE, Thank god Motec went with one of their of the shelf units. instead of building a one of a kind unit that will only fit the 86.

Will you also be selling the Motec system exhaust for this car?

Only if you kept your car :D

We've been working with Motec Australia since June. Motec doesn't like to release anything till it is 100% done.

I am hoping to have this thing fired up this weekend.

I'm wondering guys since it's a PnP setup does that mean it integrates a map that would allow start up and such, or would it be like the blank boxed M4to m88 setup where you have to start from the ground up ?

Can't wait for review !


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We will have it loaded up for the guys who purchase from us. Along with full support. We built a bench harness for these ecus.

Motec M1 Plug N Play
 

Is it wrong that I want this even before buying my turbo kit :lol:




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You are not alone my friend lol

Motec M1 Plug N Play
 

So when should I drop my car off for the ecu and turbo upgrades @FullBlown ??!!

Tomorrow

I'll see you in the morning

Can not wait to see what pricing on this unit will be.

You're at the shop so much, you may as well just bring some barrels of E85 back with you each time and have some real fun :thumbsup:

We get 55gal drums of e98 shipped in but I daily my car so I'd need like 10 a summer and that takes up a lot of space lol.

Any reason why this isn't in the tuning forum?

Motec M1 Plug N Play
 

The tuning forum is a breeding ground for OEM ECU games. This belongs where it fits best, with the FI guys, writing checks and breaking axles. :D

There are several mentions of power steering in the description. Does the M1 replace the EPS ECU or is it influencing the steering behavior in some other way?

Other shops have it listed for $3500 so we shall see

From what we gathered, everything performs like the factory, due to the can bus communication between the oem electronics and the m1.

We've been playing with the gtr unit for awhile and love it.

I saw you posting a pic of this in your shop car... and cringed because I know ill be wanting one for my build. EEP! I am quite afraid to see the final price. I know the GTR setup is in the mid 3k range. And even though most parts for the GTR are way over priced (due to limited sales numbers) I am going to guess that wont affect this and we will be paying around the same?

Does motec have a flex fuel setup? The new magnesium series seems really legit.

Edit: thinking about it I'm sure there isn't that much complication just simply taking an analog input & using a fuel / ignition trim map to do flex correct? :)

I believe flex fuel will be available if it isn't already. The way Motec models the M1, it is different from your typical standalones. I know most standalones will use a trim table in closed loop to trim IGN and Fuel base on the feedback of the ethanol sensor. It could be that they use the same strategy but I am not 100% certain.

Motec have really put the effort into the M1 tune to make it as easy as possible to dial a tune in once you understand the whole concept.

The GTR unit is retailed at $7500. Even though the 86 unit is virtually the same box, it will not cost that much because the GTR required a ton of work /R&D to communicate with the Transmission Control Module and other things.

From what I have gathered, the price of the M1 license and package for a specific platform, will be determined by how much time and effort their engineers have invested. Not only that but the continue support to refine the product after the purchase as well.

** Darren@motec have been very helpful with getting this going. I know he made an account here and will be chime in with more details and answers.

I dont know where i came up with mid 3... i think that was for the raw M150... not the GTR package. if it was in the 2-3k range I would be quite interested but probably going to be much more expensive than I could afford. I would love to jump ship and try that EMS out. After my experience with my last motor and all the money invested in ecutek... I will never again waste the time or money on a flash based setup when I plan on doing this much to a car.

Another thing that i tell my self is this box would always have a proper resale value. Use it for a year of two and then let it go, you might only lose a grand or so on a proper EMS which might be a 30% of money lost, while on the otter hand with ecutek you're left with nothing other than a cable


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Hi,

I'm an applications engineer for Motec so I can answer some of the questions about the Motec 86 ECU.

It is a full stand alone, remove the OE ECU entirely and it integrates into the cars system to keep all functionality, similar to the R35 ECU. I'm not sure if cruise control has been implemented yet though. The OE power steering is one system the ECU integrates with and functions as standard.

Flex fuel is an option we are working on for other projects, and may be considered for the 86 ECU. It's not something that can be configured by the end user, yet. Basically if there is enough demand for any features the ECU doesn't have, these can be added in the future.

We haven't done the years of testing on the 86 like we did for the GT-R so we are expecting a few teething problems but if anything pops up it will be fixed immediately.

The price of $3500 going around come from one of my colleagues who was interviewed at an event. He doesn't mention what you get for that but I can confirm the price here in AUD is just a fraction over that. It does work out to be more expensive in USD.
What you get for that is just the ECU, so it's about the same price as a base M800, no options. The M150 is far better than the M800, double the pin count, 250mB of logging, far better tuning software and comes with the likes of cam control, DBW, traction control, anti lag, boost control and the like included in that price, plus DI and port injector control (hi/lo), and vehicle integration. There is very good value for money for the right applications. It may be too expensive for milder application and we would have loved to make the price considerably cheaper it was just not possible. Hence the reason for selling the ECU alone and not only as a kit so customers have the cheapest option available.

Optional extras are
- The adaptor loom. The loom drawings will be available and header connectors can be purchased from various electrical retailers so it's not too difficult to build your own like Full Blown has done. We have a small number of looms coming into stock next week, with a larger number coming mid December.

- Lambda requires an LTC (Lambda to CAN) module, or PLM. This can be a single or dual unit if you want individual banks, and the NTK or Bosch LSU 4.9 versions are available.

- Logging comes standard but restricted to a predefined set, but the 250Mb is standard. This can be upgraded to 2000 channels and up to 1000Hz per channel with a maximum of 150kB/s throughput. That works out to about 35 channels at 1000Hz or ~1800 channels at 20Hz. Pro analysis is also available of course.


LJ at Full Blown has kept on my case for an ECU for the last couple of month, so he's been one of the first to receive an ECU and is helping us test on higher end turbo vehicles. We were hoping to have firmware to them this week, but as usual things always take longer than expected so we're not quite there yet. I'm told it will happen next week, Friday at the latest, but let's just wait and see.
The guys at Full Blown have been great and given us as a very good opportunity to test on the extreme end.
we have been testing with some other local and international dealers for a few months now using an older, less comprehensive firmware with very good results, just getting to the final comprehensive and polished version now, and will be available to the general public before the end of the year.

Cheers,
Darren.

great info, will be watching this launch over the winter and saving my pennies before spring and pulling the car back out

Ugh after PM'ng @DarrenR and talking to him... I hate this thread. The M1 series is magnificent... HAH They even have a developer friendly module for people like me... Now I really want to jump on the Motec ship.