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cassidy0998 03-12-2012 11:28 PM

Will Forza 4 get the FR-S and/or BRZ?
 
I don't think that there is a specific thread on this topic but I know it is one that many of us (Forza players) are thinking about quite heavily.

GT5 got the 86 and if I recall correctly the commercial before they released had the 86 as well as the FR-S in it and they made a lot of hype about the FR-S coming to GT5.

As far as I know, GT5 still doesn't have the FR-S. Only the 86 has come to GT5.

So what's this about? Do you think that Toyota has gone for GT5 on the PS3 because in Japan the PS3 is much more popular the Forza and the Xbox?

However, in the U.S. the XBox appears to be a good bit more popular (sales figures can be used to represent this "popularity".)

Would it make more sense for Scion not to agree to put the FR-S in GT5 but in Forza instead? Does Toyota have some kind of agreement with GT5 to keep the BRZ out? Is Subaru holding out for Forza? Are Scion and Subaru both competing for the rights to put "only" their car in the game? Questions questions questions... This is all just speculation... But it is interesting.

This licensing stuff can get tricky - and I bet it's going to get really messy with the 86/GT86/FR-S/BRZ.. but surely Forza will get one of them. Most likely not the 86, but perhaps the FR-S or BRZ. Which will it be?

Draco-REX 03-13-2012 12:48 AM

I hope one of the FT platform cars comes to Forza. I'd like to see the BRZ, but any of them will be fine since they're essentially all the same.

Allch Chcar 03-13-2012 03:39 AM

Considering there were partials of the concept on the Collectors Edition of Forza 3. I'm hoping it's just a simple matter of licensing that can be resolved in time.

They did strike a deal with EA for Porsche... why not FRS/BRZ?

blur 03-13-2012 07:10 PM

Hopefully we'll get FR-S/BRZ soon.

2JZ swap? :D

Allch Chcar 07-18-2012 08:07 PM

I looked this up and apparently Polyphony managed to get licenses for both Twins.

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/th...33#post-649297
Badned seems like the guy in the know based on other people's comments.

I don't know how long "soon" is but it's apparently not expired yet since he said that in Feb.

JoeBoxer 07-18-2012 08:20 PM

I hope its in Forza Horizon for sure and the current one would be nice too.

FRkane 07-19-2012 01:40 PM

I am about to just buy another PS3 just so I can drive it on gt5....

ill86 07-19-2012 01:54 PM

Toyota marketing has the fr-s coming to forza...

StevenEngage 07-19-2012 02:15 PM

This has been something that was driving me insane for a while, I WANT it in forza, I do remember reading somewhere though that it will be in Horizons and not forza 4. Don't know if that's true or not but at least its something.

I already could not wait for horizons as it is, Forza realism mixed with NFS style street racing....ILL TAKE IT. this is what I have been waiting on the NFS people to make and instead they keep making garbage, there hasn't been a good NFS since underground 2 (maybe most wanted, meh)

Allch Chcar 07-19-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86 (Post 325606)
Toyota marketing has the fr-s coming to forza...

Hey no fair! Share your source please. http://allch-chcar.com/saved/gideon_beg.gif

Tainen 07-19-2012 05:56 PM

I'm in contact with the audio team...

FRkane 07-19-2012 06:35 PM

that means ill hold out on another ps3

Kido1986 07-19-2012 06:36 PM

Ahh! So you're part of the best sounding racing simulation ever.

I must thank you :)

I drove GT5 for the first time with my new racing cockpit last night. The GT86 WAS fun but the audio is sooo poor.

Laika 07-19-2012 07:02 PM

I wish a game could combine the best aspects of Gran Turismo and Forza together

Gran Turismo
+Driving dynamics
-horrible layout
-meh graphics
-limited modifications

Forza
-Driving physics leave a lot to be desired
+Layout (although forza 2 was the best)
+Looots of modifications + swaps
+I like that bit with jeremy clarkson talking about cars

Basically I only like gran turismo for actual driving and the only thing I don't like about Forza is driving. I'll still buy every Forza game because I like just building cars.

denkigrve 07-19-2012 08:36 PM

The car won't be in Forza 4. Expect it in future games though unless Toyota signs another deal.

ill86 07-19-2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 325898)
Hey no fair! Share your source please. http://allch-chcar.com/saved/gideon_beg.gif

I teach motorsports and we did an fr-s "rollout" at my track. Part of the new scion/fr-s marketing was cetered around the age of the average male gamer.. Long story short, fr-s will be in gt5 & fm4. Don't know when, or how long PD has exclusive use.

ill86 07-19-2012 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denkigrve (Post 326501)
The car won't be in Forza 4. Expect it in future games though unless Toyota signs another deal.

I'm not sure there has been an official statement. If so, source? I was told differently at the end of may.

ill86 07-19-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tainen (Post 326202)
I'm in contact with the audio team...

Can you elaborate, please?

denkigrve 07-19-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86 (Post 326593)
I'm not sure there has been an official statement. If so, source? I was told differently at the end of may.

One of the links above has a post from a moderator that says Polyphony has the rights, but to only expect it in future titles. So maybe Horizons.

ill86 07-19-2012 11:13 PM

Cool, i see that. I was hoping for an official statement, but that'll work. Fwiw, there was def. a forza4 logo at the toyota event.

Tainen 07-20-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86 (Post 326597)
Can you elaborate, please?


unfortunately no, I can't. :)

CBR600RR 07-20-2012 02:40 PM

Gran Turismo FTW!!!!

Allch Chcar 07-20-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86 (Post 326587)
I teach motorsports and we did an fr-s "rollout" at my track. Part of the new scion/fr-s marketing was cetered around the age of the average male gamer.. Long story short, fr-s will be in gt5 & fm4. Don't know when, or how long PD has exclusive use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86 (Post 326921)
Cool, i see that. I was hoping for an official statement, but that'll work. Fwiw, there was def. a forza4 logo at the toyota event.

That's not much to go on. Here you had my hopes up that you had a source but that's your own speculation. We know it'll be in Forza franchise but "when?" is the question.

Liquidsnake 07-20-2012 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRkane (Post 325562)
I am about to just buy another PS3 just so I can drive it on gt5....


I did this, and was reminded why I switched to Forza. The driving physics in GT 5 are some of the worst I have ever seen. And that is coming from a guy who used to race home after school to play the original GT. Forza has lapped it.

I hope F4 gets the cars, but I think Sony got it for a while.

FRkane 07-20-2012 04:30 PM

I know someone was saying this but we should get a FT86 forza club going. We need to get this going if its not already. That way when someone races dirty we can butcher them on the forum.

ichitaka05 07-20-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRkane (Post 328520)
I know someone was saying this but we should get a FT86 forza club going. We need to get this going if its not already. That way when someone races dirty we can butcher them on the forum.

iirc someone did make one

denkigrve 07-20-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidsnake (Post 328294)
I did this, and was reminded why I switched to Forza. The driving physics in GT 5 are some of the worst I have ever seen. And that is coming from a guy who used to race home after school to play the original GT. Forza has lapped it.

I hope F4 gets the cars, but I think Sony got it for a while.

lol no.

You're just used to one's physics over the other. Forza's physics are way more arcady. GT5 physics are some of the best in the industry for a game aimed at consumers like this one is. Part of the reason GT5 took so long was perfecting these physics. Forza's engine audio is WAY nicer though. GT5 seriously slacked in that department.

ichitaka05 07-20-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denkigrve (Post 328625)
lol no.

You're just used to one's physics over the other. Forza's physics are way more arcady. GT5 physics are some of the best in the industry for a game aimed at consumers like this one is. Part of the reason GT5 took so long was perfecting these physics. Forza's engine audio is WAY nicer though. GT5 seriously slacked in that department.

^This. I'm not saying Forza has arcady physic or vice versa... BUT Yeah, Forza got that engine audio down better than GT for sure

Allch Chcar 07-20-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 328526)
iirc someone did make one

It was @Sea1monkey2

ill86 07-21-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 328266)
That's not much to go on. Here you had my hopes up that you had a source but that's your own speculation. We know it'll be in Forza franchise but "when?" is the question.

lol It's not my own speculation. I can't mention specifics more than i did. I didn't say forza franchise, i said fm4. The marketing is already in place. Sorry to get your hopes up, relax.. Lol..

Drive your fr-s/brz on track to tide you over. :)

ill86 07-21-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denkigrve (Post 328625)
lol no.

You're just used to one's physics over the other. Forza's physics are way more arcady. GT5 physics are some of the best in the industry for a game aimed at consumers like this one is. Part of the reason GT5 took so long was perfecting these physics. Forza's engine audio is WAY nicer though. GT5 seriously slacked in that department.

I disagree. PD dropped the ball on GT5. I'm a huge GT fan and i hate the 360, but FM4 is better imo. The physics are not bad. GT5 does not feel better even with a $$$ cockpit and wheel setup.

I've driven quite a lot of cars on real race tracks. GT cars are magnetic to the track. Forza cars react more realistic.

Allch Chcar 07-21-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86 (Post 330099)
...
Drive your fr-s/brz on track to tide you over. :)

I was hoping the Twins in Forza would tide me over until I could get one. I've got at least a year or two of college ahead of me and my business contacts have all disappeared, my fault of course.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86 (Post 330107)
I disagree. PD dropped the ball on GT5. I'm a huge GT fan and i hate the 360, but FM4 is better imo. The physics are not bad. GT5 does not feel better even with a $$$ cockpit and wheel setup.

I've driven quite a lot of cars on real race tracks. GT cars are magnetic to the track. Forza cars react more realistic.

There was already a very long discussion about GT5 vs Forza4. Near as I can tell, the only thing GT has on Forza IS the driving physics.

blur 07-21-2012 04:39 PM

IMO, GT5 is easier to race and drift on than FM3... not sure about FM4 though.

ill86 07-21-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 330197)
I was hoping the Twins in Forza would tide me over until I could get one. I've got at least a year or two of college ahead of me and my business contacts have all disappeared, my fault of course.

Sounds like you're doing the responsible thing. Godspeed, man!



Quote:

There was already a very long discussion about GT5 vs Forza4. Near as I can tell, the only thing GT has on Forza IS the driving physics.
Just my humble opinion. Play whichever you like better. :)

Snoopyalien24 07-21-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blur (Post 330228)
IMO, GT5 is easier to race and drift on than FM3... not sure about FM4 though.

Same mechanics, It feels like it's hard to do, but with a right tune and suspension, it could be done. Kinda like in the real world lol

Snoopyalien24 07-21-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denkigrve (Post 328625)
lol no.

You're just used to one's physics over the other. Forza's physics are way more arcady. GT5 physics are some of the best in the industry for a game aimed at consumers like this one is. Part of the reason GT5 took so long was perfecting these physics. Forza's engine audio is WAY nicer though. GT5 seriously slacked in that department.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 328671)
^This. I'm not saying Forza has arcady physic or vice versa... BUT Yeah, Forza got that engine audio down better than GT for sure

What if they both got the best and favorites from each game, and .... wait for it.... made a collaboration game!

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/352-whoa.jpg

blur 07-21-2012 05:48 PM

Hopefully Horizon will have the 86. That's what I'm holding out for.

ichitaka05 07-21-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 330278)
What if they both got the best and favorites from each game, and .... wait for it.... made a collaboration game!

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/352-whoa.jpg

The major thing is, both of em just need to look what make other one better & bring it in into their game

blur 07-21-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 330355)
The major thing is, both of em just need to look what make other one better & bring it in into their game

It would take 10 years for GT5 to finish remodeling all the standard cars and add forza-like audio, at their current pace.

ichitaka05 07-21-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blur (Post 330359)
It would take 10 years for GT5 to finish remodeling all the standard cars and add forza-like audio, at their current pace.

No, it'll be less than that. They just putting other extra stuff that caused it to delay the game to come out


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