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Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech
All true. Maybe I should have LOLed instead? I know I may have touched a nerve with you, because you have the Brand X on your car. My point was that perspective has to be kept here. If you want to compare that new Brand X kit to our original 6psi kit that isn't even sold anymore, I can agree with you all day. However, you can't compare it to the current system and say they make almost the same power, because it simply isn't true. No matter what, with similar mods, similar fuel, etc. under similar testing conditions, the 2 systems will not produce similar power...for a number of reasons. They are just 2 different products.
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I can arrange to show this if you want to work something out... My friend has as you call Brand X supercharger. We are using the same tuner, same environments, hell we have the same aftermarket wheels!. The only difference being he has a different muffler and i have ~ 8k more miles on my car. He can easily reinstall the stock muffler and we can line them up.
I agree to both sides to an extent. Boost is boost, its not some magical myth to find a wormhole to build horsepower. The innovate is a tad more complex to tune as you have no accurate IAT readings due to MAF&IAT stock configuration. You also have a non inter cooled, metal manifold that can heat soak. Which is hard to read since you have no IAT to read it.
I can vouch that side by side the innovate does have a much better low end (much as in noticeable, not amazing) but around 5-6k the vortech just completely flips the table over to about the same difference the innovate had at low RPM.
No reason to bash both kits are great, and have their uses. The innovate is a blast to drive with the instant torque. There is a slight difference in "lag" on throttle between the two. The innovate truly feels like a displacement change. But overall the vortech has a smoother power delivery that is linear and doesn't "jerk" the car in motion with a massive torque change.