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Old 08-21-2024, 06:09 PM   #1784
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Originally Posted by series.trackday View Post
Is this what people mean by hot take?

Used K24A2s with low mileage can be had for $1500-1700 including shipping. The majority of the cost is in the actual swap components (adapters, bushings/mounts) and labor.

I also don't know what you mean by "motorsports benefit other than track days". Several series have regulations which allow for swaps. A 200 HP K24 has more area under the curve than a 200 HP FA20.

The FA20 motor is known to be weak in several ways for prolonged track/race use, whereas the K24 platform is known to be strong even in stock form. This very argument is one I had with myself within the past month, and it's what brought me back to this thread after originally saying the pricing on the swap kit was outlandish and ridiculous. Buying a re-engineered/modified shortblock which fixes the oiling priority issues of the FA20 is over $4K, adding a larger capacity baffled oil pan, higher-quality oil pump, and modified pickup is another grand. Add labor costs to R&R an engine and swap your stock block for the modified block and you're at $8K and you still have an FA20. IF you're going to go for adding power, you now still have all of the issues of the FA20 platform.


Motor swaps are not an investment. Car mods are not an investment. If by "investment" you mean a ROI in terms of winning races/competitions - you can't win a race you can't finish.


As far as "part of the 1%" - you okay, dude? There's a massive difference between someone who makes 100K/yr, budgets decently, and saves for a year or two to afford a big expense for their main hobby, and someone who makes millions of dollars a year.

Finally - what suspension upgrades are you referring to? The FA20-K24 swap leaves the balance of the car barely moved and the overall weight reduction over the front axle of is the same as buying a couple lightweight race seats.
I addressed in my reply to him but all I'm saying is a $17k engine swap is hard to swallow.

As for the money, I'm in the 2% but I have a family and their future matters too. To each their own when it comes to money.
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