follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB

Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB Problems, issues, recalls, TSBs


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-01-2024, 11:26 AM   #1
WNDSRFR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S,GTI
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 1,167
Thanks: 232
Thanked 841 Times in 428 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Steering pulls to the right

Got a weird problem lately. The steering is constantly pulling to the right. If I let go of the steering wheel the car will immediately turn about 30 degrees to the right. The pull isn't terribly strong but constant. If I drive about 5 mph the steering wheel pulses right, releases, pulses, releases, on and on and on in a steady rhythm. I think it has something to do with the power steering. The EPS coupler has been rattling for about a year now. It used to drive me crazy on rough roads, now it does it all the time. It rattles on even the smoothest highways. The only way to stop it is to put some bias on the steering which is exactly what is going on. I'm putting backlash on the coupler by turning the wheel left to counteract the pull to the right.
I've been planning to change the coupler for a year now but it's too hot right now. Maybe in November. I hope the steering lasts till then.
Meanwhile, I'll live with it as long as the steering doesn't completely fail. That would be bad.
WNDSRFR is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WNDSRFR For This Useful Post:
humfrz (09-01-2024)
Old 09-01-2024, 12:23 PM   #2
Ohio Enthusiast
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Drives: 2018 BRZ
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 954
Thanks: 1,408
Thanked 810 Times in 462 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Hit any bumps or curbs? Might be alignment related, although it does sound both too extreme and intermittent to be that.
I'd try taking out the EPS fuse (big 80A fuse in the engine bay fuse block) and taking the car for a very short drive - steering becomes extremely heavy. If the pull goes away it's the EPS, if not it's alignment.
Ohio Enthusiast is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ohio Enthusiast For This Useful Post:
WNDSRFR (09-01-2024)
Old 09-01-2024, 01:35 PM   #3
WNDSRFR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S,GTI
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 1,167
Thanks: 232
Thanked 841 Times in 428 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Haven't hit anything lately, actually I've kept it on the road for over 240,000 miles and never hit anything. I just noticed a new symptom. If I drive in reverse at 5 mph everything reverses. Now it pulses to the left. Maybe right front wheel bearing? or brake dragging? I'll have to jack it up and check that out. If it ever stops raining.
WNDSRFR is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WNDSRFR For This Useful Post:
humfrz (09-01-2024)
Old 09-01-2024, 01:54 PM   #4
WNDSRFR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S,GTI
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 1,167
Thanks: 232
Thanked 841 Times in 428 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
80 amps? Damn, that's a powerful motor.
I pulled the fuse and it makes no difference except that it's ALOT harder to steer. EPS is a wonderful thing. Like I said I've never hit anything so I doubt it's alignment but we'll see. Thought for sure it had to do with the EPS but I guess not.
This is a weird one.
WNDSRFR is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WNDSRFR For This Useful Post:
humfrz (09-01-2024)
Old 09-01-2024, 02:56 PM   #5
whataboutbob
AutoX-10/10ths every run
 
whataboutbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S AT Firestorm
Location: San Marcos, CA, USA
Posts: 2,573
Thanks: 4,764
Thanked 1,856 Times in 1,011 Posts
Mentioned: 79 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Inner tie rod ends getting sloppy?
whataboutbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2024, 11:52 PM   #6
humfrz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 30,060
Thanks: 29,120
Thanked 32,202 Times in 16,572 Posts
Mentioned: 709 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WNDSRFR View Post
80 amps? Damn, that's a powerful motor.
I pulled the fuse and it makes no difference except that it's ALOT harder to steer. EPS is a wonderful thing. Like I said I've never hit anything so I doubt it's alignment but we'll see. Thought for sure it had to do with the EPS but I guess not.
This is a weird one.
First off, WNDSRFR, at your age and station in life, you shouldn't have to be putting up with shit like that.

Since it is hot, humid and raining, I suggest you take your car into a local, reputable, alignment/front end shop and ask them to fix it.

Have them call you when it's fixed, catch a ride home, take a nap and wait for their call.

humfrz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to humfrz For This Useful Post:
alphasaur (09-02-2024), WNDSRFR (09-02-2024)
Old 09-02-2024, 08:19 AM   #7
WNDSRFR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S,GTI
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 1,167
Thanks: 232
Thanked 841 Times in 428 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Jacked up the car to check the wheel bearings and brakes and I think I found the problem. I need to check my tires more often. The car is so low I can't really see them. But looks like I caught it JUST in time. I think one more hard right turn and the tread might have ripped off. Got an appointment for new tires tomorrow. I'll be riding my bike today.
Attached Images
 
WNDSRFR is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to WNDSRFR For This Useful Post:
humfrz (09-02-2024), whataboutbob (09-02-2024)
Old 09-02-2024, 09:13 AM   #8
thomasmryan
Senior Member
 
thomasmryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: hyper blue
Location: east tn
Posts: 404
Thanks: 166
Thanked 262 Times in 156 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
if you have a couple tape measures, check your toe before you mount fresh meat.
thomasmryan is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to thomasmryan For This Useful Post:
WNDSRFR (09-02-2024)
Old 09-02-2024, 10:03 AM   #9
WNDSRFR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S,GTI
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 1,167
Thanks: 232
Thanked 841 Times in 428 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
How do you measure toe with tape measures?
I was thinking about taping a yardstick to each tire and shooting a laser pointer from the rear yardstick to the front yardstick and see where the laser hits.

Or... I could have them do it at the tire shop with their machine.
WNDSRFR is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WNDSRFR For This Useful Post:
humfrz (09-02-2024)
Old 09-02-2024, 11:17 AM   #10
thomasmryan
Senior Member
 
thomasmryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: hyper blue
Location: east tn
Posts: 404
Thanks: 166
Thanked 262 Times in 156 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
i use a couple pieces of 3/4" bar stock 24" long just to ball park the front and then string alignments all four corners to get it dead on the money.

you mentioned a popping sound in your original post so you might see if the bearing in the top hat pooped the bed. a bad bearing will bind the spring and increase the camber a tad.( this throws off the toe)
thomasmryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2024, 09:47 PM   #11
humfrz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 30,060
Thanks: 29,120
Thanked 32,202 Times in 16,572 Posts
Mentioned: 709 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WNDSRFR View Post
How do you measure toe with tape measures?
I was thinking about taping a yardstick to each tire and shooting a laser pointer from the rear yardstick to the front yardstick and see where the laser hits.

Or... I could have them do it at the tire shop with their machine.
NOW, you're catching on -
humfrz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2024, 11:55 AM   #12
WNDSRFR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S,GTI
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 1,167
Thanks: 232
Thanked 841 Times in 428 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Well, I drove the backroads to the tire place in case the tire popped I would have less chance of getting killed. The rattle from the EPS coupler was absolutely driving me nuts. I figured I have to change that today. I've had the part for a year now. Got to the tire place and the guy had this app on his phone where he points the phone under the car at the tires and it checks for even wear. Came out perfect except for the right front of course. He offered to check the alignment for free but he said it would take half an hour. That's at least an hour in real time so I declined. Figured if the car handles good and wears evenly I don't care if it's aligned or not. Driving home the car handles perfectly again and constant THE RATTLE iS GONE. It only rattles on very rough roads again. I got so used to it before now I don't even notice it. Looks like the new EPS coupler is going to stay in the drawer a bit longer.
WNDSRFR is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Steering doesn't return to center and car pulls to the right UFO Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 7 10-29-2017 03:45 AM
some pulls with the FRS KAR BRZ Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum 0 04-20-2015 04:35 PM
car pulls to right when braking hard.. VoiD Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 15 12-17-2013 05:26 PM
Cummins pulls Chevy bestwheelbase Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 25 12-29-2012 02:19 PM
Toyota pulls out of Formula 1... what next? oldeskewltoy Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 16 11-09-2009 02:03 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.