CSG and RCE tag-team suspension Q&A thread! Ask us anything!

[Kostamojen]

I just felt my rear tire lift on a tight corner cause of the new swaybar.... :/

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

I just felt my rear tire lift on a tight corner cause of the new swaybar.... :/

Time for an air locker. ARB makes some nice ones.

[Turkish]

So in the dry my brz is very planted in turns, but now in the wet the car behaves more like a 1970's muscle car when it comes to cornering. The obvious answer is the rubber, I'll probably switch to 225/45r17 MPSS on the stock wheels once the stock rubber is worn out. The car sees double duty as DD and AutoX STX class. My suspension work is only Bilstein B8 shocks/struts and RCE Tarmac springs

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[solidONE]

Originally Posted by Turkish

So in the dry my brz is very planted in turns, but now in the wet the car behaves more like a 1970's muscle car when it comes to cornering. The obvious answer is the rubber, I'll probably switch to 225/45r17 MPSS on the stock wheels once the stock rubber is worn out. The car sees double duty as DD and AutoX STX class. My suspension work is only Bilstein B8 shocks/struts and RCE Tarmac springs

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Alignment? I've found that a little bit of camber goes a long way on this car. Also, from the alignment specs I've seen on other and my own car is that it can vary quite a bit from left side to right side. There's about 0.5 degrees difference between my left and right rear wheels from the factory.

[Turkish]

Originally Posted by solidONE

Alignment? I've found that a little bit of camber goes a long way on this car. Also, from the alignment specs I've seen on other and my own car is that it can vary quite a bit from left side to right side. There's about 0.5 degrees difference between my left and right rear wheels from the factory.

I'm on my phone and can't easily post my alignment, but it is towards the end of my build thread linked in my signature. One rear wheel is -1.8, the other is -2.0.

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[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Not a bad link!

What it comes down to for me....I want good valving. A good twintube is better than a bad monotube. They each have their inherent advantages and disadvantages and for a hardcore motorsports shock I want a monotube. But at the end of the day, I just want the best shock within my budget.

- Andy

I agree completely. My post was an overgeneralization assuming at a minimum equal levels of quality and valving expertise put into each. I prefer the tradeoffs of a monotube to twin.

Nathan

[SubieNate]

That link had a loooot of marketing. The decision between twin and monotube should not be made based on travel. If a damper is designed correctly for the application, the damper should have adequate travel. Period. Subaru puts inverted Mono's into the sti, bilstein's offerings are all inverted monotubes ( for our car at least). You can't tell me bilstein put in less engineering than tein.

Just a car in point. Rally cars almost exclusively run long travel inverted monotubes. They have prodigious amounts of travel. Specialized application? Yes. But obviously long travel can be done.

To me the advantages in strength, damping precision, resistance to foaming and cavitation, ease of rebuildability, and ease of revalving are all hugely in monotube's favor.

[steveoexige]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Not a bad link!

What it comes down to for me....I want good valving. A good twintube is better than a bad monotube. They each have their inherent advantages and disadvantages and for a hardcore motorsports shock I want a monotube. But at the end of the day, I just want the best shock within my budget.

- Andy

Talking of monotubes....any opinion on the HKS SP's ? another vendor promised a review of these a few months back? Only ask as these have been highly recommended to me but I'd like to hear your thoughts 1st.

[Books]

Thoughts on running no rear sway bar? I was hunting down a clunk, which turns out it was my rear endlinks. I have Hotchkis 25.4mm front bar (hollow, highest setting @ 630 lbs/in), RCE Tarmac springs, and Konis. It's been quite fun to drive around but haven't really pushed it yet.

[wparsons]

Without a rear bar it's going to want to push like crazy.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Without a rear bar it's going to want to push like crazy.

Haven't some Auto-x folks run no rear bar?

[raul]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Haven't some Auto-x folks run no rear bar?

No. Just a thicker front bar.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Haven't some Auto-x folks run no rear bar?

Yup. @Ninjin runs without a rear sway bar.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by SirBrass

Yup. @Ninjin runs without a rear sway bar.

With what spring rates though?