2017 BRZ 6th feels stiff - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

BrunoCr7 · 09-16-2016, 09:20 AM

Just got my brand new 2017 BRZ and I was just working on getting used to the gears and where they are so I had the car off and the clutch pressed down and I started going from 1st to 6th and I noticed when I got to 6th, putting it into 6th felt a little stiff and clunky, is that normal?

bababooey · 09-16-2016, 09:23 AM

new car, give it a few hunder/ thousand miles to break in. it could also very well be that the engine isnt on.

Trust86 · 09-16-2016, 10:19 AM

+1 for engine being off

Manic · 09-16-2016, 11:07 AM

Pretty standard symptoms. It's easy to forget that most cars these days don't have a direct mechanical linkage to the transmission like ours do which is what makes shifting feel so snappy and crisp.

Once it's broken in and when all the fluid are up to tempt, it's probably one of the best feeling transmissions out there. Sure some of the older versions (mine included) have some synchro issues particularly 4th to 5th, but I believe the revised transmissions in the MY2017 they've really beefed up the internals so hopefully you won't run into any of that later on.

While you're at it, if you subscribe to the "change engine oil at 1k mile" break-in theory, you should swap out the M/T fluid as well. Motul seems to be a forum favorite and it should make shifting buttery smooth. I just wish I had done the same much earlier on as it could've saved me some headaches down the road.

GsxrMe · 09-16-2016, 09:49 PM

The car never became alive until 3000 miles. It felt tight and weird. The factory breakin oil in the car was also making it rev super slow.

continuecrushing · 09-17-2016, 03:33 PM

yup, like @Manic said swap the trans/diff fluid soonish-maybe between 3 and 5k miles?

Just don't wait until the "recommended" mileage lol

projectXTR · 09-19-2016, 05:13 AM

Start the engine.
Let it idle and warm up in neutral.
As soon as the RPM drops to around or below 1000 RPM you're good to go.
Shifts are way smoother compared to just starting the car and taking off immediately.

nikitopo · 09-19-2016, 05:25 AM

No need to change the trans/diff fluids. The car is just in the break-in period and everything will smooth out gradually. Consult your dealer for the fluid change intervals.

Tcoat · 09-19-2016, 05:51 AM

For crying out loud guys did only a couple of you read the whole post? The freakin' car was off. "Wait and let it break in" and "change the oil right away"? Really?

The gear are meant to be shifted when the syncros are spinning. ^h gear is meant to be spinning the fastest. Sitting in the shut off car making vroooom noises and shifting gears is not driving.

Why do so many want to "fix" things that are not broke all the time?

nikitopo · 09-19-2016, 06:47 AM

I was doing lately an installation and had to switch the gear on 6th while the engine was off. I didn't notice any stiffness. In general the gear box in this car needs its time and I wouldn't worry too much.

radroach · 09-19-2016, 09:01 AM

My 6th gear has always felt a little longer, notchier, and slower to get into. No problems getting into it though, I just don't throw it in hard since its just a cruising gear.

Lantana frs · 09-19-2016, 09:56 AM

The gears like to be spinning when asked to engage one another.

Ultramaroon · 09-19-2016, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

For crying out loud...

Maybe OP was coasting.

strat61caster · 09-19-2016, 01:11 PM

My two cents; I like how my tranny feels better with 52,000 miles on it than it did with 52 miles on it.

09-16-2016, 09:20 AM	#1
BrunoCr7 Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Location: Canada Posts: 13 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2017 BRZ 6th feels stiff Just got my brand new 2017 BRZ and I was just working on getting used to the gears and where they are so I had the car off and the clutch pressed down and I started going from 1st to 6th and I noticed when I got to 6th, putting it into 6th felt a little stiff and clunky, is that normal?

09-16-2016, 11:07 AM	#4
Manic Is not fast. Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2014 Whiteout M/T Location: SoCal Posts: 521 Thanks: 208 Thanked 473 Times in 198 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Pretty standard symptoms. It's easy to forget that most cars these days don't have a direct mechanical linkage to the transmission like ours do which is what makes shifting feel so snappy and crisp. Once it's broken in and when all the fluid are up to tempt, it's probably one of the best feeling transmissions out there. Sure some of the older versions (mine included) have some synchro issues particularly 4th to 5th, but I believe the revised transmissions in the MY2017 they've really beefed up the internals so hopefully you won't run into any of that later on. While you're at it, if you subscribe to the "change engine oil at 1k mile" break-in theory, you should swap out the M/T fluid as well. Motul seems to be a forum favorite and it should make shifting buttery smooth. I just wish I had done the same much earlier on as it could've saved me some headaches down the road. __________________ "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936

09-16-2016, 09:49 PM	#5
GsxrMe Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Drives: Late 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 557 Thanks: 20 Thanked 183 Times in 139 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	The car never became alive until 3000 miles. It felt tight and weird. The factory breakin oil in the car was also making it rev super slow. __________________ 2014 Subaru BRZ FBM Turbokit: GTX3076R - ECUTEK HRI FlexFuel tune - FBM 3" Turboback Exhaust - 550cc Injectors - Walbro 485 Fuel Pump - 4bar Map Sensor - FBM Oil Pan - ACT SB7-XTSS - AMSOIL all fluids - Forester XT Oil Cooler - Cusco engine, trans mounts - Whiteline rear differential bushings - Perrin shifter bushing - Firehawk 235/45/17 - AEM Failsafe

09-19-2016, 05:51 AM	#9
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,845 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,286 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2497 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	For crying out loud guys did only a couple of you read the whole post? The freakin' car was off. "Wait and let it break in" and "change the oil right away"? Really? The gear are meant to be shifted when the syncros are spinning. ^h gear is meant to be spinning the fastest. Sitting in the shut off car making vroooom noises and shifting gears is not driving. Why do so many want to "fix" things that are not broke all the time? __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

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09-16-2016, 09:23 AM	#2
bababooey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: BRZ SWP Limited -6MT Location: HillCountry-TX Posts: 422 Thanks: 145 Thanked 158 Times in 103 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	new car, give it a few hunder/ thousand miles to break in. it could also very well be that the engine isnt on.

09-16-2016, 10:19 AM	#3
Trust86 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2016 Halo FRS Location: US Posts: 414 Thanks: 290 Thanked 162 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	+1 for engine being off

09-17-2016, 03:33 PM	#6
continuecrushing Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FRS Location: Lake Elsinore, CA Posts: 2,707 Thanks: 1,231 Thanked 2,144 Times in 1,003 Posts Mentioned: 73 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	yup, like @Manic said swap the trans/diff fluid soonish-maybe between 3 and 5k miles? Just don't wait until the "recommended" mileage lol

09-19-2016, 05:13 AM	#7
projectXTR Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Sterling Silver BRZ Location: Belgium Posts: 303 Thanks: 100 Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Start the engine. Let it idle and warm up in neutral. As soon as the RPM drops to around or below 1000 RPM you're good to go. Shifts are way smoother compared to just starting the car and taking off immediately.

09-19-2016, 05:25 AM	#8
nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,944 Times in 1,261 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No need to change the trans/diff fluids. The car is just in the break-in period and everything will smooth out gradually. Consult your dealer for the fluid change intervals.

09-19-2016, 06:47 AM	#10
nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,944 Times in 1,261 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was doing lately an installation and had to switch the gear on 6th while the engine was off. I didn't notice any stiffness. In general the gear box in this car needs its time and I wouldn't worry too much.

09-19-2016, 09:01 AM	#11
radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	My 6th gear has always felt a little longer, notchier, and slower to get into. No problems getting into it though, I just don't throw it in hard since its just a cruising gear.

09-19-2016, 09:56 AM	#12
Lantana frs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Drives: 13 frs red Location: Lantana fl Posts: 448 Thanks: 51 Thanked 198 Times in 115 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The gears like to be spinning when asked to engage one another.

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