Subaru Develops EyeSight for Manual Transmission Vehicles

[fredzy]

And first car to get it is 2nd gen BRZ in Japan.

I think this is a big deal. It is one fewer thing numbering the days of fun MT cars.

I always figured Subaru's reluctance to pair MT and eyesight was a part of their plan to eventually stop making any manual vehicles. I guess in the end it was just their standard over-conservatism.

https://www.subaru.co.jp/news-en/202...=newsletter-en

Tokyo, June 20, 2023 – Subaru Corporation announces the development of EyeSight for manual transmission (MT) vehicles and its introduction in Japan on the Subaru BRZ (Japanese specification models) scheduled to debut this fall.

EyeSight is Subaru’s original driver assist system, the world’s first to use only stereo camera technology to provide pre-collision braking by detecting not only cars, but also pedestrians, cyclists, and motorcyclists in the vehicle’s path, and other features such as adaptive cruise control. Since its debut in 2008, cumulative global sales of Subaru vehicles equipped with the EyeSight driver assist system have totaled more than 5.5 million units.*1
Based on the existing EyeSight system adopted on the automatic transmission Subaru BRZ, the newly developed EyeSight for MT vehicles offers pre-collision braking, adaptive cruise control, lane departure and sway warning, lead vehicle start alert, and rear sonar warning. While retaining its high performance in collision avoidance, collision damage mitigation, and in reducing the driver’s workload, the new EyeSight system is now combined with control tailored to the driving and operating characteristics of MT vehicles. This allows the system to operate in a wide range of real-world situations, providing a high level of driving enjoyment and peace of mind.

In pursuit of the goal of “Delivering Happiness to All,” Subaru will continue to enhance safety through its primary, driving, passive, preventive, and connected safety technologies under its “All-Around Safety” principle, which underpins “Enjoyment and Peace of Mind” for all drivers and passengers. Through these efforts, we aim to achieve zero fatal road accidents*2 in 2030.

*1: As of the end of May 2023.
*2: Zero fatal road accidents among occupants of Subaru vehicles and people involved in collisions with Subaru vehicles, including pedestrians and cyclists.

[OldBiker]

I never understood why cars would need any of this? Perhaps if they stopped planting giant "infotainment" tablets on the dash, drivers would actually be looking at the road and driving the damn car. As for myself, my little display is turned off and my eyes are on the road. Just grateful the BRZ has manual controls for everything, no need to hunt on a touch screen.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by OldBiker

I never understood why cars would need any of this? Perhaps if they stopped planting giant "infotainment" tablets on the dash, drivers would actually be looking at the road and driving the damn car. As for myself, my little display is turned off and my eyes are on the road. Just grateful the BRZ has manual controls for everything, no need to hunt on a touch screen.

it's part of the larger global initiative for '0 vehicular deaths'. but they refuse to acknowledge the technology/death-distraction venn diagram they've created.

[FR-S2GT86]

In my opinion, cars such as the twins should be simplistic with the minimum of bells and whistles or distractive infotainment systems as to allow the driver to be focused on what really matters, the driving experience. Personally, I hate adaptive cruise control, my old lady's RAV4 has it, it's annoying to have the car slow itself down when I'm getting ready to pass slower drivers. It's just more add-on crap available to replace my right foot. I don't need that shit.

Within the first week of ownership, I had pulled the factory touchscreen head unit from my car and began the search for the perfect audio system to compliment the perfect driving experience.

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86

In my opinion, cars such as the twins should be simplistic with the minimum of bells and whistles or distractive infotainment systems as to allow the driver to be focused on what really matters, the driving experience. Personally, I hate adaptive cruise control, my old lady's RAV4 has it, it's annoying to have the car slow itself down when I'm getting ready to pass slower drivers. It's just more add-on crap available to replace my right foot. I don't need that shit.

Within the first week of ownership, I had pulled the factory touchscreen head unit from my car and began the search for the perfect audio system to compliment the perfect driving experience.

With eyesight you can put the car into standard cruise as well to disable this.

[fredzy]

Originally Posted by OldBiker

I never understood why cars would need any of this? Perhaps if they stopped planting giant "infotainment" tablets on the dash, drivers would actually be looking at the road and driving the damn car. As for myself, my little display is turned off and my eyes are on the road. Just grateful the BRZ has manual controls for everything, no need to hunt on a touch screen.

Previously I took this position as well. I'd spent time in dealer loaners and rental cars with the stuff and never messed with it, seemed an annoyance if anything. Especially with respect to sports cars, "keep em pure!"

Recently my DD has become a car with these features. Auto hi-beam, pre-collision braking, lane keep assist I have all come to appreciate. It hasn't saved me or anything, but damn I know it could. Once you're accustomed to it it can only help. Having this technology in no way changes the way I drive, with exception of auto hi-beam freeing up some mental capacity not having to worry about hi-beaming people.

It was just announced that the GR86 manual will come with all this stuff for 2024, but mind-bogglingly the auto hi-beams aren't available on the manual per the press release!!!

[Opie]

Maybe, just maybe....Subaru will bring back other MT models....
2024 Impreza RS in MT would be nice, Crosstrek, Forester....

[Xed32]

Have this on a crosstrek. Nothing more terrifying than having the car jump on the brakes on the highway because it feels you are too close to the car in front when you are maneuvering. Absolutely terrifying to have the wheel yanked out of your hands when you are adjusting to the edge of a lane for visibility and to pass. Had to turn it off before it caused an accident.

[FR-S2GT86]

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

With eyesight you can put the car into standard cruise as well to disable this.

Perhaps, but Big Brother is still looking over your shoulder either way. No thank you.

[vindiesel]

Eye sight is a great safety feature but people abuse the adaptive cruise control and impede traffic on the highway due to complacency and not moving over. It’s great for when your in bumper to bumper traffic though. All technology is making us dumber and taking the human experience out of the human.

[OldBiker]

Long row of zombie drivers... clogging the left lane, barely going faster than the big semis... you have to switch to the right lane and pass the whole line of them. Yep, the joys of adaptive cruise control.

People driving with high beams on nicely light roads... just stay with the low beam for god's sake!

The science of human factors tells us that our mind will not attend a task we are NOT performing... attention will wonder and we will not maintain situational awareness. I don't want to be a passenger in a car I am driving... then again, I am a dinosaur... hope future generations will discover my tibia in some tar pit and wonder.


(PS: I recently test-drove a German car with exquisite rev-matching... did it better on downshifts than Ayrton Senna could. No fun at all... might as well be automatic.)

[vindiesel]

Originally Posted by OldBiker

Long row of zombie drivers... clogging the left lane, barely going faster than the big semis... you have to switch to the right lane and pass the whole line of them. Yep, the joys of adaptive cruise control.

People driving with high beams on nicely light roads... just stay with the low beam for god's sake!

The science of human factors tells us that our mind will not attend a task we are NOT performing... attention will wonder and we will not maintain situational awareness. I don't want to be a passenger in a car I am driving... then again, I am a dinosaur... hope future generations will discover my tibia in some tar pit and wonder.


(PS: I recently test-drove a German car with exquisite rev-matching... did it better on downshifts than Ayrton Senna could. No fun at all... might as well be automatic.)

Here in A murica… if they switched the passing lane to the far right lane instead of the left then traffic would make allot more sense at a glance. Shows you the level of entitlement and abuse of not moving right some of it is strictly poor awareness of surroundings.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86

In my opinion, cars such as the twins should be simplistic with the minimum of bells and whistles or distractive infotainment systems as to allow the driver to be focused on what really matters, the driving experience. Personally, I hate adaptive cruise control, my old lady's RAV4 has it, it's annoying to have the car slow itself down when I'm getting ready to pass slower drivers. It's just more add-on crap available to replace my right foot. I don't need that shit.

Within the first week of ownership, I had pulled the factory touchscreen head unit from my car and began the search for the perfect audio system to compliment the perfect driving experience.

and that's why i bought a 2014.

[ruturaj001]

Originally Posted by OldBiker

I never understood why cars would need any of this? Perhaps if they stopped planting giant "infotainment" tablets on the dash, drivers would actually be looking at the road and driving the damn car. As for myself, my little display is turned off and my eyes are on the road. Just grateful the BRZ has manual controls for everything, no need to hunt on a touch screen.

I am somewhat in middle on this. I like few safety features, mainly blind spot monitor. I don't mind complexity in parts that are easy to swap like headlights. Not a fan of complicated systems in eyesight as your point.