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#87 · 04-04-2011, 09:33 PM

So I can do heel toe at full braking but in regular every day driving where I'm not approaching a corner at speed but just slowly braking into it I can't heel toe. If I try I end up pushing the brake really hard and it's very ugly and not smooth.

Are there any tips for getting smooth with heel toe when not under full braking?

ichitaka05 · 04-04-2011, 10:13 PM

Then I would recommend doing when you're fully at stop. Feel your brake pedal when you press it lightly and press your gas w heel.

That should help you lil bit

NESW20 · 04-04-2011, 10:21 PM

just gotta work on that ankle rotation.

RRnold · 04-05-2011, 02:52 PM

Since you are not fully pressing the brake pedal during everyday driving, I don't think you would have enough leverage and angle to do as smooth as you would during heavy braking.

Maybe try practicing in an empty parking to and see which angle works better for you; using your big toe, 2 toes or entire ball of your foot etc.

NESW20 · 04-05-2011, 05:25 PM

i have no problem heel-toeing virtually any car under any amount of braking. my size 9s seem to work well for it.

TheBigBadBanana · 04-05-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold

Maybe try practicing in an empty parking to and see which angle works better for you; using your big toe, 2 toes or entire ball of your foot etc.

Definitely this. Practice makes perfect.
If major ankle rotation doesn't work for you, wider shoes might help.

aliphian · 04-05-2011, 06:26 PM

I have never attempted this technique. I did used to practice left foot braking though.

aliphian · 04-05-2011, 06:33 PM

Check out this crazy tap dancing.

xantonin · 04-05-2011, 09:31 PM

I have wide and big feet, and I have trouble just angling them without hitting the sidewall of the foot area with my heel...

For I while I tried using my toe on the brake and my pinky toe on the gas but it felt risky, like I could slip...

I came to the conclusion that I just don't think every foot pedal is designed equally and that you can't heel-toe in every car. Seems to me the gas pedal in my car is a good 4 inches further back than the brake pedal.

XpLiCiT_CaShh · 04-05-2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xantonin

I came to the conclusion that I just don't think every foot pedal is designed equally and that you can't heel-toe in every car. Seems to me the gas pedal in my car is a good 4 inches further back than the brake pedal.

Also spacing between pedals.. My ol Escort the pedals were so close occasionally id clip the brake while clutching or giving her berries .. ahh good times!

ichitaka05 · 04-05-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aliphian

Check out this crazy tap dancing.

I am more amazed how he's not scare all those ppl. That's one of reason I can't be Rally driver.

#87 · 04-05-2011, 11:05 PM

Another thing. What pedals or material on your pedals can you use to prevent slipping with wet feet.

I practice stick shift in my GF civic si because my car is auto. If your feet are even damp the pedals are dangerously slippery.

karma003 · 08-13-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aliphian

Check out this crazy tap dancing.

Amazing video thanx a lot for the post

Draco-REX · 08-13-2012, 11:31 AM

Practice, practice.

Also, you don't HAVE to hit the gas with your heel. I find it easier to hit the pedal with the outside of my foot about opposite from where the arch is.

04-04-2011, 09:33 PM	#1
#87 I usually post drunk Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 1,487 Thanks: 15 Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Heel toe So I can do heel toe at full braking but in regular every day driving where I'm not approaching a corner at speed but just slowly braking into it I can't heel toe. If I try I end up pushing the brake really hard and it's very ugly and not smooth. Are there any tips for getting smooth with heel toe when not under full braking?

04-04-2011, 10:13 PM	#2
ichitaka05 Site Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: ichi 86 Project Location: Middle of No where Posts: 20,975 Thanks: 7,672 Thanked 19,096 Times in 8,333 Posts Mentioned: 678 Post(s) Tagged: 27 Thread(s)	Then I would recommend doing when you're fully at stop. Feel your brake pedal when you press it lightly and press your gas w heel. That should help you lil bit __________________

04-04-2011, 10:21 PM	#3
NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	just gotta work on that ankle rotation. __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

04-05-2011, 02:52 PM	#4
RRnold 2 wheel member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: JZA80, 997.1, Taco Location: SoCal->NorCal Posts: 4,330 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 938 Times in 480 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Since you are not fully pressing the brake pedal during everyday driving, I don't think you would have enough leverage and angle to do as smooth as you would during heavy braking. Maybe try practicing in an empty parking to and see which angle works better for you; using your big toe, 2 toes or entire ball of your foot etc. __________________

04-05-2011, 05:25 PM	#5
NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i have no problem heel-toeing virtually any car under any amount of braking. my size 9s seem to work well for it. __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

04-05-2011, 06:26 PM	#7
aliphian Dreamer Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: Nutless Grocery Getter Location: California Posts: 375 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have never attempted this technique. I did used to practice left foot braking though. __________________ "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

04-05-2011, 06:33 PM	#8
aliphian Dreamer Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: Nutless Grocery Getter Location: California Posts: 375 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Check out this crazy tap dancing. __________________ "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

04-05-2011, 09:31 PM	#9
xantonin Mr. Detail Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: 2003 Celica GT-S Location: Cary, NC Posts: 742 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have wide and big feet, and I have trouble just angling them without hitting the sidewall of the foot area with my heel... For I while I tried using my toe on the brake and my pinky toe on the gas but it felt risky, like I could slip... I came to the conclusion that I just don't think every foot pedal is designed equally and that you can't heel-toe in every car. Seems to me the gas pedal in my car is a good 4 inches further back than the brake pedal. __________________

04-05-2011, 11:05 PM	#12
#87 I usually post drunk Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 1,487 Thanks: 15 Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Another thing. What pedals or material on your pedals can you use to prevent slipping with wet feet. I practice stick shift in my GF civic si because my car is auto. If your feet are even damp the pedals are dangerously slippery.

08-13-2012, 11:31 AM	#14
Draco-REX Corner Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 11 STI, 99 RS Location: Ohio Posts: 2,908 Thanks: 129 Thanked 1,520 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Practice, practice. Also, you don't HAVE to hit the gas with your heel. I find it easier to hit the pedal with the outside of my foot about opposite from where the arch is.

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