Cricket Sound Poll AFTER October 2016 TSB completed - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

stevesnj · 06-22-2017, 08:19 AM

So some confusion still exists that this TSB helps and some said they still get crickets after the October 2016 TSB. Hopefully this poll will help those decide wether it's worth their wile to get this done or just leave as is. I figure after a year we should have a good idea of the effectiveness of this "Redesigned" Pump.

Simple question; Do you still hear crickets AFTER getting the latest pump as listed in the October 2016 TSB? FOR 2013- (early) 2016 CARS ONLY

DrinkenBeeRZ · 06-22-2017, 11:46 PM

Yes. I got them to go away with three ounzes per fill up of Idemitsu Premix for Mazda rotarys I had sitting around from my 7 and 8.

davidsn_670 · 06-23-2017, 10:51 AM

Been 6 months now on the redesigned fuel pump and no crickets. When the dealership is going to work on your car, you have to either print the TSB for them or let them know there is a recently revised one. If you don't, they may refer to the older TSB with the older style pump. It almost happened to me. I personally had to talk to the lead tech and let him know what's going on. Toyota rarely works on these cars and hardly check up on new TSBs for Scion.

funwheeldrive · 06-23-2017, 11:04 AM

MY14 owner. Had crickets since new. Got the fuel pump replaced in 03/17. No crickets yet.

Impureclient · 06-23-2017, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Simple question; Do you still hear crickets AFTER getting the latest pump as listed in the October 2016 TSB? FOR 2013- (early) 2016 CARS ONLY

Answer:

Quote:

Yes. I got them to go away with three ounzes per fill up of Idemitsu Premix for Mazda rotarys I had sitting around from my 7 and 8.

Maybe this is going to be too hard to do here. Is there any other way to ask this question and get real answers because I am thinking that 5 out of 11 so far really are not actually sure what happened to their cars.
In fact if I believe with a poll like this and we ask "what color is your car" we may end up with people answering that they like green shirts or brown dogs.

For the record I had the pump changed out I believe around December and afterwards no crickets have returned.

dhuang · 06-23-2017, 01:29 PM

Mine is starting to sound like a mild case of crickets, definitely not as bad as before.

About 9k on the new HPFP.

Resolute · 06-23-2017, 03:01 PM

My '16 had terrible crickets about 300 miles after driving it off the dealer lot. Even through the winter. The redesigned fuel pump was installed about 4 months ago and the crickets have not returned, but the pump does get louder when it kicks on at idle. It's just a much louder ticking sound, though, instead of the cricket chirp.

ScoobsMcGee · 06-23-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dhuang

Mine is starting to sound like a mild case of crickets, definitely not as bad as before.

About 9k on the new HPFP.

I'll second this. About 8k now since replacing the pump in November. The crickets are back, but they sound like they've been muffled.

Tcoat · 06-23-2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute

My '16 had terrible crickets about 300 miles after driving it off the dealer lot. Even through the winter. The redesigned fuel pump was installed about 4 months ago and the crickets have not returned, but the pump does get louder when it kicks on at idle. It's just a much louder ticking sound, though, instead of the cricket chirp.

That isn't the pump. That is the injectors changing over. The pump is cam driven and on all the time so it doesn't kick in at idle.

Resolute · 06-23-2017, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

That isn't the pump. That is the injectors changing over. The pump is cam driven and on all the time so it doesn't kick in at idle.

Yeah, the DI injectors are noisy for sure, but always have been. This new noise is the pump. You're right, it isn't because the pump is 'kicking on', but just like when the crickets would only come on at idle when the direct injectors started firing, the new pump makes a loud mechanical noise instead. My point is, for those pondering the new pump TSB, the pump is still noisy (as most, if not all, HPFPs are), but it isn't crickets.

DrinkenBeeRZ · 06-24-2017, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient

Answer:

Maybe this is going to be too hard to do here. Is there any other way to ask this question and get real answers because I am thinking that 5 out of 11 so far really are not actually sure what happened to their cars.
In fact if I believe with a poll like this and we ask "what color is your car" we may end up with people answering that they like green shirts or brown dogs.

For the record I had the pump changed out I believe around December and afterwards no crickets have returned.

My improvised fix was after the TSB pump started chirping three months after the January replacement. Hopefully that's more clear.

chazmuska · 07-03-2017, 10:17 AM

It's been about 6 months since my last fuel pump replacement in Jan. No crickets since. I've also only used Shell 91oct...except for several occasions I had to use some other generic gas but no issues at all!

gump1376 · 07-12-2017, 09:43 PM

they returned worse than they were within 900 miles. sitting at a light is embarrassing. The fact that the chiing is worse (using Shell 91 octane) makes me want to blow the damn car up. A new car (~12500 miles) should not be making these sounds. especially since it's been going on from 2013.

stevesnj · 07-16-2017, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gump1376

they returned worse than they were within 900 miles. sitting at a light is embarrassing. The fact that the chiing is worse (using Shell 91 octane) makes me want to blow the damn car up. A new car (~12500 miles) should not be making these sounds. especially since it's been going on from 2013.

Go to the dealer and have them do the pump again.

View Poll Results: Do you still hear Cricket/Chirp AFTER getting the October 2016 TSB Service?
The Crickets have NOT returned	19	42.22%
The Crickets HAVE returned	26	57.78%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

06-22-2017, 08:19 AM	#1
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06-23-2017, 10:51 AM	#3
davidsn_670 Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2015 Scion FRS Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 44 Thanks: 23 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Been 6 months now on the redesigned fuel pump and no crickets. When the dealership is going to work on your car, you have to either print the TSB for them or let them know there is a recently revised one. If you don't, they may refer to the older TSB with the older style pump. It almost happened to me. I personally had to talk to the lead tech and let him know what's going on. Toyota rarely works on these cars and hardly check up on new TSBs for Scion.

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06-23-2017, 01:29 PM	#6
dhuang Cannonball Record Guy Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Series.Yellow, 4C, Fit Location: Houston / Atlanta Posts: 493 Thanks: 480 Thanked 429 Times in 223 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Mine is starting to sound like a mild case of crickets, definitely not as bad as before. About 9k on the new HPFP.

06-23-2017, 03:01 PM	#7
Resolute in the recliner of rage Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: Asphalt FR-S Location: 7400' ASL Posts: 44 Thanks: 8 Thanked 59 Times in 23 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My '16 had terrible crickets about 300 miles after driving it off the dealer lot. Even through the winter. The redesigned fuel pump was installed about 4 months ago and the crickets have not returned, but the pump does get louder when it kicks on at idle. It's just a much louder ticking sound, though, instead of the cricket chirp.

07-03-2017, 10:17 AM	#12
chazmuska Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Drives: 2014 Scion FR-S Location: Arizona Posts: 80 Thanks: 19 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's been about 6 months since my last fuel pump replacement in Jan. No crickets since. I've also only used Shell 91oct...except for several occasions I had to use some other generic gas but no issues at all!

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gump1376 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Asphalt Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	they returned worse than they were within 900 miles. sitting at a light is embarrassing. The fact that the chiing is worse (using Shell 91 octane) makes me want to blow the damn car up. A new car (~12500 miles) should not be making these sounds. especially since it's been going on from 2013.

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