Trying to research about ECU tuning, a couple of questions

[TJ3000]

Originally Posted by Drakelee117

Thanks man. This is pretty helpful.

No Problem, enjoy the reliability of stock for now, it's not that bad, have fun with your car in the track. Drive around with a loud ass exhaust and enjoy! Though cops may be mad it is you who is enjoying your car not anyone else!

[Drakelee117]

Originally Posted by TJ3000

No Problem, enjoy the reliability of stock for now, it's not that bad, have fun with your car in the track. Drive around with a loud ass exhaust and enjoy! Though cops may be mad it is you who is enjoying your car not anyone else!

I know this is kind of far from the reason I originally post the thread, but since I rarely find somebody lives in Cali and willing to answer these questions, I have one more question. DO you know what do those CA cops think about CARB legal parts like the superchargers? I know they are legal if you run the factory tune, but so are catbacks I thought initially.

[Koa]

Originally Posted by Drakelee117

I know this is kind of far from the reason I originally post the thread, but since I rarely find somebody lives in Cali and willing to answer these questions, I have one more question. DO you know what do those CA cops think about CARB legal parts like the superchargers? I know they are legal if you run the factory tune, but so are catbacks I thought initially.

if you truly find a cop that cares that much to dig into your mods for carb approval.. lord help you

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by Drakelee117

E85 tune will cause the check engine light pops up? Or is it some specific settings in the tune? Also, does this mean that I don't even have to keep the stock tune as one of the maps just for inspection purpose?

I was speaking in general. If you don't have CEL and you pass the visual inspection. You will get your smog cert. An e85 tune, or any tune for that matter, will obviously pass a visual test and you shouldn't have a CEL; so it should pass the OB test.

e85 is legal. The fuel is in no way illegal based on emissions. e85 burns cleaner than gasoline. We have factory flex fuel vehicles that use e85. I have no idea how the rumor of e85 not being CARB legal started.

Originally Posted by TJ3000

Technically any modification to an exhaust with the exception of TRD is illegal, OFT takes 5 mins to flash just pull over prior to approaching the check point, I totally get what your trying to do. Your trying to be low key with the law flying under the radar but the fact of the matter is... You gotta pay to play... Hang on to your stock parts if an issue arises then you can always bolt back on your stock parts. It really depends on the cop too if they want to pop you for mods here are a few things to remember.

1) Don't drive like an idiot
2) Don't race people
3) Don't rev your engine for the attention
4) You have to pay to play
5) Your going to go against everything I just listed
6) Most Importantly, DON'T KILL ANYONE!

a cat-back exhaust does not tamper, modify, or remove any factory emissions equipment. They are all legal in terms of emissions.

Noise violations on the other hand, well thats you're own fault.

[TJ3000]

Originally Posted by Drakelee117

I know this is kind of far from the reason I originally post the thread, but since I rarely find somebody lives in Cali and willing to answer these questions, I have one more question. DO you know what do those CA cops think about CARB legal parts like the superchargers? I know they are legal if you run the factory tune, but so are catbacks I thought initially.

If they are CARB legal then they should have CARB number on it, for example, innovate superchargers, they claim to be CARB legal, however I have not yet seen a CARB No. On one, if you want it to be legal, you must get a BAR sticker, and you'lll have to go through CHP, big hassle.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by TJ3000

If they are CARB legal then they should have CARB number on it, for example, innovate superchargers, they claim to be CARB legal, however I have not yet seen a CARB No. On one, if you want it to be legal, you must get a BAR sticker, and you'lll have to go through CHP, big hassle.

The CARB EO on Innovate kits D-719 and catback exhausts do not require a CARB certification because they only replace the section of the exhaust behind the catalytic converters, which is completely legal as long as it does not exceed the decibal limit (95db in most areas).

There is no need to produce a CARB certification for a product which does not require one in the first place.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

[TJ3000]

Originally Posted by sales@delicioustuning.com

The CARB EO on Innovate kits D-719 and catback exhausts do not require a CARB certification because they only replace the section of the exhaust behind the catalytic converters, which is completely legal as long as it does not exceed the decibal limit (95db in most areas).

There is no need to produce a CARB certification for a product which does not require one in the first place.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Thank You for calrifying

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by TJ3000

Thank You for calrifying

Happy to help. I know it's been stated above already but a tune will not cause you to fail a smog test as long as all factory cats are intact. If you're running a catless header, the CEL can be disabled, but the evaporative emissions monitors will never fully clear, leading to a fail. Stage 1 tunes typically pick up in the area of 15whp peak.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

[TJ3000]

Originally Posted by sales@delicioustuning.com

Happy to help. I know it's been stated above already but a tune will not cause you to fail a smog test as long as all factory cats are intact. If you're running a catless header, the CEL can be disabled, but the evaporative emissions monitors will never fully clear, leading to a fail. Stage 1 tunes typically pick up in the area of 15whp peak.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Dammit Really!? I was going to go ECUTek but didn't, fearing I would fail smog! Wouldn't the timing be off as well though? I just bought my wife her XV Crosstrek and noticed you guys released a OTS but wasn't sure cause I'd fail smog.

[Thatguyjeremy]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

If you don't pop a check engine light, you will pass.

CA does not do a sniffer test anymore. Just OBD and visual.

when did they change that up?

[tahdizzle]

They changed that for 06 and newer vehicles? I think thats the range.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by TJ3000

Dammit Really!? I was going to go ECUTek but didn't, fearing I would fail smog! Wouldn't the timing be off as well though? I just bought my wife her XV Crosstrek and noticed you guys released a OTS but wasn't sure cause I'd fail smog.

Nope, no fear of failing smog on Stage 1 tunes. None of the CEL's are tripped and all emissions equipment remains intact, so all of the readiness monitors have no issues clearing. Cam and ignition timing is wildly dynamic and is going to vary based on a myriad of factors even on a factory tune, something that a smog tech would have no clue how to discern over a pro tune such as our Stage 1.

I've been running our Stage 1 NA tune since early 2013 when we came out with it, and I have had no issues with CEL's or readiness monitors clearing whatsoever. All good here!

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

[kombatlion]

I have a question, or a couple!!

Ok I have ecutek, I tune with a shop for FI and now I am back to NA.

I want to buy a tune online right... I have a friend with the ecutek program on a PC and a cable that he use on his FRS.

Can I used hic PC and Cable to tune my FRS?
How can I find my licence Number?

I have no contact with the shop used to tune me, they blow my engine so we are not talking, thanks!!!

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by kombatlion

Can I used hic PC and Cable to tune my FRS?
How can I find my licence Number?

Yes you can. You don't need a license number although some tuners require a dongle ID so you can't flash on multiple computers. This is just found via ProECU running on a computer with that dongle inserted, it doesn't need to be connected to a car. It shows in the top bar eg. ProECU 6B JF U9