Vacci-Nation [CLOSED DUE TO DISRESPECTFUL, INSULTING, POLITICAL POSTS

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by spike021

Even tetanus shots/boosters don't really make sense to everyone.

I could make a very similar argument to Opie and p1l0t about it.

I work on a computer all day, I rarely touch dirty/corroded metal surfaces. Why should I have to take some random tetanus booster shot?

The only reason I got my most recent one was because I injured myself fairly seriously in an uncommon way and so the ER staff wanted to be sure I wouldn't have issues.

And the beauty of that is, had you NOT gotten the booster the only person (the people who would mourn your suffering and death notwithstanding) who would have been seriously affected would have been YOU. That's the big difference. Many of us are getting this (or these) vaccines for other people, too. Because it's not just all about us. That entire concept is fundamentally lost on an entire group of people.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Someone brought up having their own immune system fight off stuff as a reason to not get the vaccine..

But...but...but...that's exactly what your immune system does with the Covid vaccine. It learns how to fight off stuff just like it would if exposed to the virus, without the virus risks.

It's like learning to fly an airplane on your own, versus using an instructor. It can be done, but one is much more dangerous than the other.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

................ I got a flu vaccine for the first time last year. Maybe we were given them when I was in the Navy. I don't remember.......

I doubt it -

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

But...but...but...that's exactly what your immune system does with the Covid vaccine. It learns how to fight off stuff just like it would if exposed to the virus, without the virus risks.

It's like learning to fly an airplane on your own, versus using an instructor. It can be done, but one is much more dangerous than the other.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I doubt it -

Listen here, mister...

[bcj]

... marbles in the overhead ...

[JD001]

My wife had her second jab today, Phfizer. Again, no side effects.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by JD001

My wife had her second jab today, Phfizer. Again, no side effects.

Nice!

I had a dream last night that I got mine a week early, lol.

Guess I'm that excited for next Tuesday.

[weederr33]

Coworker got his second shot yesterday and other than feeling a bit fatigued, is doing fine

[Opie]

Originally Posted by spike021

If we've had and studied the technology for decades and the only difference is we haven't executed it in this way, then it's not so different.

Also, this entirely avoids another point from a couple days ago:

The J&J vaccine isn't new at all, it uses the same mechanisms as previous vaccines. So we technically could just entirely skip talking about the mRNA ones and, again, ask what's stopping anyone in this thread from just taking J&J's instead, since it's "been tested for decades".

This thought process is equal to gasoline is a fuel, coal is a fuel, why can't I use coal in my car.

[Opie]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

We can tell.

Cool - glad you had the chance to let all that out. Feeling Better?

It's a day late, but the bitching fourth be with you.

See even bitching about my post about the bitching...

[Opie]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Someone brought up having their own immune system fight off stuff as a reason to not get the vaccine. So no, that was not a peanut gallery comment. Other non covid stuff was brought up to try to defend anti vaxxers, which I'm not going to look back at the other pages to quote, yet those were fine to you?

My whole point was if one is going to be as brazen enough to make that "immune system" comment, then that person would be a hypocrite on getting any kind of medical/drug help for any illness.

So you are saying, even if can be scientifically and medically proven that certain people have all the antibodies necessary to prevent infection from this virus that they should still get the vaccine? Why? That makes no sense.

And how does someone being concerned with, asking questions and researching this vaccine when deciding if they should get labeled an anti-vaxxer? A little extremist me thinks.

[Opie]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

And the beauty of that is, had you NOT gotten the booster the only person (the people who would mourn your suffering and death notwithstanding) who would have been seriously affected would have been YOU. That's the big difference. Many of us are getting this (or these) vaccines for other people, too. Because it's not just all about us. That entire concept is fundamentally lost on an entire group of people.

Or, even without the booster he may have been fine. (and, no I'm not against the tetanus vaccine) Tetanus also isn't transmitted person to person, usually isn't deadly and has less than 30 cases per year in the US.

Re; Covid, science is already proving that there are those who have the necessary immune system to fight off this disease, as effectively, and in the studies so far, more effectively than with vaccine. So explain why people that already have the antibodies that a vaccine trains your body to make require the vaccine? Sounds like its just to make certain people feel better...

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Opie

Or, even without the booster he may have been fine. (and, no I'm not against the tetanus vaccine) Tetanus also isn't transmitted person to person, usually isn't deadly and has less than 30 cases per year in the US.

Re; Covid, science is already proving that there are those who have the necessary immune system to fight off this disease, as effectively, and in the studies so far, more effectively than with vaccine. So explain why people that already have the antibodies that a vaccine trains your body to make require the vaccine? Sounds like its just to make certain people feel better...

But, how does one know for sure? -