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StE92ve · 09-23-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by racingfool

Well it looks more like a ducktail than a duckbill to me.

No argument here, just stating how the manufacturer refers to it.

Blighty · 09-23-2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by racingfool

I believe that's a ducktail spoiler.

Heheh

joro2 · 09-23-2021, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjork

First gen looked more like a modern classic, with the curves and unique styling. A modern throw back to classic curves etc.

100%

Gen 1 styling was a nod to the past e.g. Toyota 2000GT..

e.g. at the 2012/13 intro Toyota originally displayed the Gen 1 along side an original AE86, the 2000GT, and the Sports 800

Jeonsa · 09-23-2021, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joro2

100%

Gen 1 styling was a nod to the past e.g. Toyota 2000GT..

e.g. at the 2012/13 intro Toyota originally displayed the Gen 1 along side an original AE86, the 2000GT, and the Sports 800

Spot on, styling of a 2000gt, boxer like the sports 800, affordable RWD like a AE86. I remember following the project like a mad man

Blighty · 09-23-2021, 09:11 PM

I think toyota made a great starting spot for a sports car.

I dont think it really looks like any of those past cars, perhaps hints of each, but the lines were pretty different. Its a different era now.

86-75309 · 09-24-2021, 09:49 AM

Looks more like a Daffy Duckbill spoiler to me. Toyota probably couldn't call it that for copyright reasons.

Yoshoobaroo · 09-24-2021, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mazeroni

It actually looks finished. They even bothered to follow the hood line into the plastic rain gutter and made a triangle shape.

Wow. that is a massive difference. Even the A pillar/hood/fender transition on by BMW looks like a mess compared to that.

daiheadjai · 09-27-2021, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mazeroni

What I appreciate most from that angle is how much more clean the lines are between the A-pillar, hood, and front fender. It isn't just a poorly executed jumble of pieces they had to make fit as best they could.

It actually looks finished. They even bothered to follow the hood line into the plastic rain gutter and made a triangle shape.

Compared to:

I remembered Sanjeev Mehta made that exact point about that A-pillar mess (despite loving the rest of the car).
Plus getting rid of the fake-vent for a real one is always a win.

vh_supra26 · 11-23-2021, 05:09 PM

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...mance-numbers/

Dirty Harry · 11-23-2021, 06:45 PM

Looking at those numbers it makes a pretty compelling argument to upgrade. Only thing stopping some people is they might not like the look of it.

Dadhawk · 11-23-2021, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Looking at those numbers it makes a pretty compelling argument to upgrade. Only thing stopping some people is they might not like the look of it.

Performance wise, its definitely an upgrade, but even Toyota can't make it pretty. This is directly off their website configurator page. Ugmm...no thanks.

(and for those that think it looks great, I'm glad you like it)

timurrrr · 11-23-2021, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Performance wise, its definitely an upgrade, but even Toyota can't make it pretty. This is directly off their website configurator page. Ugmm...no thanks.

(and for those that think it looks great, I'm glad you like it)

Well, back in the day I really didn't like the '17 BRZ when I saw Subaru's official photos,
and didn't like it in red in particular when I saw it in the online configurator (there were very few photos in red).
And yet a red '17 BRZ is the car I decided to buy when I saw it in person for the first time.

The GR 86 has been reviewed by so many YouTubers, I think the car in those videos
looks a lot closer to reality than in the static "plastic" renders in the online configurator.

mazeroni · 11-23-2021, 09:18 PM

The problem is that in renders and studio lighting there is little reference for depth on the GR86 when compared to the BRZ. So the GR86 looks like it has a short and stubby nose, compared to the BRZ that picks up a lot of highlights and shadows even in a render or under studio lighting.

But get it out in the real world...

You start to see how the nose comes forward more sharply and you have a lot of creases and it is overall more clean.

Oh, boy, does it all come together...

Dirty Harry · 11-23-2021, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Performance wise, its definitely an upgrade, but even Toyota can't make it pretty. This is directly off their website configurator page. Ugmm...no thanks.

(and for those that think it looks great, I'm glad you like it)

I still think the first gen looks better, not that the new gen looks bad, I guess I’ll withhold my final judgment until I see one in person.

I think the promotional shots where the photo of the car is taken low to the ground doesn’t do it justice, whereas YouTube videos and Instagram shots of the car where it is taken from an eye level view point look much better IMO.

I guess don’t write it off until you see it in the flesh.

09-24-2021, 09:49 AM	#566
86-75309 Senior Member Join Date: May 2021 Drives: Until recently, a 2020 Hakone 86 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 379 Thanks: 72 Thanked 519 Times in 200 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	Looks more like a Daffy Duckbill spoiler to me. Toyota probably couldn't call it that for copyright reasons. Attached Images

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