Chris Harris Drive: GT86 / FR-S vs 370z vs Cayman S - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Scion1181 · 08-15-2012, 04:34 PM

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Chris Harris reviews the GT86 again, this time putting it against the 370Z and Cayman S.

Here's his prior track review of the GT86 @ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3639

Quote:

We know it works on track, but is 200hp enough on the road? You can get a 370Z for similar money. Or a used Cayman S. If the GT 86 can do the business here, it has to be one of the great cars of 2012.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhLXvxlQR4"]Toyota GT86 / Scion FR-S v Nissan 370Z v Used Porsche Cayman S - CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS - YouTube[/ame]

Hanzo · 08-15-2012, 05:05 PM

He didn't say which one he would choose.

Sargy · 08-15-2012, 05:10 PM

Im in Love

Hachiroku · 08-15-2012, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanzo

He didn't say which one he would choose.

To me, it sounds like the 86/FR-S/BRZ occupies the soft spot in his heart out of this group, despite also loving the Cayman S.

Mari0 · 08-15-2012, 05:13 PM

"Fact is, I love this car! It's Brilliant"

ichitaka05 · 08-15-2012, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanzo

He didn't say which one he would choose.

From what I got out of the vid Chris is stating
Cayman > GT86 > 370Z

jadewbj · 08-15-2012, 05:19 PM

I think he inferred it by the ending. He talked about the Z, not so great, talked about the Cayman, great but it can get expensive to maintain and ended with super high praise for the GT86.

On a related note, what was the last car that so many automotive reviewers gushed about like this? I have seen so much praise for the car that it makes me wonder if Toyota is sending out checks.

I can't even think of one.

ZetaVI · 08-15-2012, 05:21 PM

Gotta love Chris Harris. Best thing about Drive.

Hachiroku · 08-15-2012, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I think he inferred it by the ending. He talked about the Z, not so great, talked about the Cayman, great but it can get expensive to maintain and ended with super high praise for the GT86.

On a related note, what was the last car that so many automotive reviewers gushed about like this? I have seen so much praise for the car that it makes me wonder if Toyota is sending out checks.

I can't even think of one.

Me neither! Seriously impressive.

Spaceywilly · 08-15-2012, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I think he inferred it by the ending. He talked about the Z, not so great, talked about the Cayman, great but it can get expensive to maintain and ended with super high praise for the GT86.

On a related note, what was the last car that so many automotive reviewers gushed about like this? I have seen so much praise for the car that it makes me wonder if Toyota is sending out checks.

I can't even think of one.

I definitely don't think they are giving out checks, and Chris Harris is one of the last people I would ever suspect of that. But, I do think they might be heaping praise on the car in hopes that other auto makers will build more like it. A lot of the reviews where they chose the BRZ/FRS/86 over the other cars is not because it's a great car on its own necessarily, but because it is a direction they want other auto makers to take and they are rewarding toyota/subaru for taking the first steps.

jadewbj · 08-15-2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

I definitely don't think they are giving out checks, and Chris Harris is one of the last people I would ever suspect of that. But, I do think they might be heaping praise on the car in hopes that other auto makers will build more like it. A lot of the reviews where they chose the BRZ/FRS/86 over the other cars is not because it's a great car on its own necessarily, but because it is a direction they want other auto makers to take and they are rewarding toyota/subaru for taking the first steps.

BTW, I am not accusing anyone of taking a bribe. Just making a joke.

Unleashed · 08-15-2012, 05:32 PM

Getting air!

Spaceywilly · 08-15-2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj

BTW, I am not accusing anyone of taking a bribe. Just making a joke.

Yeah I got that, unfortunately there are a lot of YouTube commenters who are saying it seriously

Rampage · 08-15-2012, 05:40 PM

I would like to know where he finds a Cayman S for 16K. I looked at Autotrader and the cheapest one I saw listed within 200 miles of me cost 29K. 29K upfront, no warranty, expensive German parts and German reliability versus Japanese reliability. FR-S/BRZ is a no brainer considering those points.

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jadewbj Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Whiteout Scion FRS Location: Orlando FL Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 101 Thanked 525 Times in 307 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s)	I think he inferred it by the ending. He talked about the Z, not so great, talked about the Cayman, great but it can get expensive to maintain and ended with super high praise for the GT86. On a related note, what was the last car that so many automotive reviewers gushed about like this? I have seen so much praise for the car that it makes me wonder if Toyota is sending out checks. I can't even think of one.

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